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Online IP protection bill sparks outrage (Could FR be Shutdown?)
Computerworld ^ | 29 September 2010 | Jaikumar Vijayan

Posted on 09/29/2010 5:01:10 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

Computerworld - Proposed federal legislation that would require domain registrars, Internet Service Providers and others to block access to Web sites that the U.S. contends contribute to copyright infringement has generated outrage among privacy advocates and prominent industry personalities.

Proponents of the legislation argue that passing the bill would be a vital move toward protecting U.S. jobs and innovation.

The bill, called the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA), was introduced last week by U.S. Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah).

The proposed law would allow the U.S. Department of Justice to file a civil, in rem action seeking a preliminary court order against any Web site that it determines is peddling copyrighted material and counterfeit goods. In rem civil actions are filed against property, such as physical property or Web sites, rather than against individuals.

All U.S. based domain registrars, ISPs and other operators of a domain name system server will then be required to prevent access to the domain name that has been served with such a court order.

The law also would allow the Attorney General to compile a separate list of Web sites that the DOJ "determines are dedicated to infringing activities" but for which no court order has been sought.

(Excerpt) Read more at computerworld.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: communism; copyright; democrats; doj; dojisajoke; donttreadonme; elections; fail; internet; ip; liberalfascism; lping; obama; tyranny
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Could this impact FR and every other political discussion website?
1 posted on 09/29/2010 5:01:15 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Jim Robinson

Care to comment, Jim?


2 posted on 09/29/2010 5:02:05 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Orrin Hatch...

Another RINO who seriously needs to be put out to pasture.


3 posted on 09/29/2010 5:05:45 AM PDT by Ronin (If he were not so gruesomely incompetent and dangerous, Obama would just be silly.)
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To: Ronin
Orrin Hatch...Another RINO who seriously needs to be put out to pasture

Patience. The movement is making progress.

4 posted on 09/29/2010 5:17:23 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; dools0007world; ...
RE :”Computerworld - Proposed federal legislation that would require domain registrars, Internet Service Providers and others to block access to Web sites that the U.S. contends contribute to copyright infringement has generated outrage among privacy advocates and prominent industry personalities. Proponents of the legislation argue that passing the bill would be a vital move toward protecting U.S. jobs and innovation. The bill, called the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA), was introduced last week by U.S. Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah). The proposed law would allow the U.S. Department of Justice to file a civil, in rem action seeking a preliminary court order against any Web site that it determines is peddling copyrighted material and counterfeit goods. In rem civil actions are filed against property, such as physical property or Web sites, rather than against individuals.

Great. This is an great example of corporatism trying to shutdown free speech on the interet, meaning us posting and commenting on parts of articles, or video clips, or who knows what.

I still want to know how a federal law got passed that allows record companies to sue grandmothers for 10s of thousands of dollars because their grandchildren downloaded songs to their MP3 players. Looks like both parties are in on this.

5 posted on 09/29/2010 5:18:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Erik Latranyi
Beware - RINO At Work! (Orrin Hatch, R-Utah)

For those who think RINO KILL is an extreme measure -> here is proof that RINO KILL is a necessary and urgent prerequisite to continued liberty.

6 posted on 09/29/2010 5:19:01 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Erik Latranyi

Oh great, I’ll have to get either a “pirate” connection, a satellite subscription from a foreign country, or dial-up to an ISP in Canada for a 28K connection.


7 posted on 09/29/2010 5:32:44 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: sickoflibs

When the attorney from the white shoe firm shows up, you will be shut down for anything real or imagined!


8 posted on 09/29/2010 5:44:02 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

What you get when you mix a Demonrat and a RINO...


9 posted on 09/29/2010 5:44:35 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Christ died for our sins...)
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To: Erik Latranyi

COICA - sounds like CLOACA.


10 posted on 09/29/2010 5:50:41 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Reference PING for updates


11 posted on 09/29/2010 5:53:59 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: PoloSec
What you get when you mix a Demonrat and a RINO...

A "DRAINO"?

12 posted on 09/29/2010 5:56:02 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The proposed legislation is aimed at addressing the nearly $100 billion in intellectual property theft that occurs annually via online sites, Sen. Leahy's office said in a statement. The products offered illegally through such Web sites include new movie and music releases, as well as counterfeit pharmaceutical and consumer products.

The article could have provided more specifics concerning just what type sites they are targeting. But I think most news sites still want traffic sent their way, and sites like FR and Drudge do that. Sites have in the past craved a link from Drudge to bring new people to their offerings.

But the uncompensated downloading of music and movies is theft and a copyright violation, and those who pretend otherwise just makes themselves look silly.

13 posted on 09/29/2010 6:05:43 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Erik Latranyi
Proponents of the legislation argue that passing the bill would be a vital move toward protecting U.S. jobs and innovation.

I think this phrase has turned into boiler-plate for any article on any topic regarding yet another government intrusion on liberty - even if the results are completely opposite the claim. Then again, this can be like "hope & change" where the reader eisegetes their own understanding of what "hope & change" entails. In this case, "protecting U.S. jobs actually means "adding more government bureaucrats" who will do nothing more than surf the web. "innovation" clearly means "hackers coming up with ways to get around this imposition".

Looks like I have a new business opportunity to provide an alternate DNS site that deals with dynamic IP. Lets realize that FR will be put on the black list before the ink dries on the law. JR would simply register this site on my alternate DNS site each time he feels a need to change the IP (remember government agents don't really work much and surfing pr0n is more suitable to their skills and interests rather than looking for sites to ban). The alternate DNS site will be a yellow pages of sorts so that someone would ask for today's IP address for FR and they would be given that. Making a plug-in for the top browsers would be child's play and most people could keep on using their browsers as usual. Bookmarks would simply go to the alternate DNS site first to see if the domain name is registered as 'bannded', if so, the IP of the day is returned, else the request is routed through the regular DNS servers.

Version 2.0 of this would probably issue out blocks of IP or relay FR through foreign servers. The Alternate DNS actually polls to see if the IP address has been banned, and then communicates to the host the need to change the IP yet again.

Worse case scenario, FR and other banned sites go through a mechanism similar to bittorrent. Try and ban that.

14 posted on 09/29/2010 6:11:19 AM PDT by The Theophilus
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To: Will88
The article could have provided more specifics concerning just what type sites they are targeting

And you are right on how this crap will be sold to the public - yet another feeble attempt in protecting Intellectual Property by using hamfisted measures that can be easily misappropriated by Obamathugs to attack their opponents.

15 posted on 09/29/2010 6:18:00 AM PDT by The Theophilus
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To: The Theophilus

“I think this phrase has turned into boiler-plate for any article on any topic regarding yet another government intrusion on liberty”

Maybe it will attain the status of “It’s a small price to pay” and “It’s for the children.”


16 posted on 09/29/2010 6:19:24 AM PDT by Elwood P. Doud
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To: Erik Latranyi
court order against any Web site that it determines is peddling copyrighted material and counterfeit goods

They going to shut down eBay? That'll save American jobs...

17 posted on 09/29/2010 6:19:37 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: The Theophilus

What if we just type the actual IP address into the browser instead of using the domain name? There is nothing to stop you from using IP addresses.


18 posted on 09/29/2010 6:20:59 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Erik Latranyi

I don’t think they like our comments.


19 posted on 09/29/2010 6:23:15 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: The Theophilus

The problem with that statement is there are no jobs or innovation.


20 posted on 09/29/2010 6:35:48 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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