Posted on 03/12/2011 1:10:06 PM PST by Steelfish
The Obama Doctrine Libya Is What A World Without U.S. Leadership Looks Like.
'This is the Obama conception of the U.S. role in the worldto work through multilateral organizations and bilateral relationships to make sure that the steps we are taking are amplified."
White House National Security Council spokesman Ben Rhodes, March 10, 2011, as quoted in the Washington Post
"They bombed us with tanks, airplanes, missiles coming from every direction. . . . We need international support, at least a no-fly zone. Why is the world not supporting us?"
Libyan rebel Mahmoud Abdel Hamid, March 10, 2011, as quoted in The Wall Street Journal
*** Whatever else one might say about President Obama's Libya policy, it has succeeded brilliantly in achieving its oft-stated goal of not leading the world. No one can any longer doubt the U.S. determination not to act before the Italians do, or until the Saudis approve, or without a U.N. resolution. This White House is forthright for followership.
That message also couldn't be clearer to Moammar Gadhafi and his sons, who are busy bombing and killing their way to victory against the Libyan opposition. As the U.S. defers to the world, the world can't decide what to do, and the vacuum is filled by a dictator and his hard men who have concluded that no one will stop them. "Hear it now. I have only two words for our brothers and sisters in the east: We're coming," said Gadhafi's son, Saif al-Islam, on Thursday.
Three weeks into the Libyan uprising, here are some of the live action highlights from what Mr. Obama likes to call "the international community":
The United Nations Security Council has imposed an arms embargo, but with enough ambiguity that no one knows whether it applies only to Gadhafi or ..
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Well, I hate to say it, but the biggest mess so far is Egypt. That’s the one that Obama managed to turn into a revolutionary Nazi/Muslim train heading down the tracks.
We wouldn’t be having all this trouble in Libya if Obama hadn’t engineered the coup in Egypt and helped force Mubarak to step down. Now the Muslim Brotherhood is running wild.
I still think Baraq is holding off on picking a winner in Libya until he can evaluate which side will contribute most to his 2012 campaign.
Well ... he sure hasn’t provided any.
Well, thats what war is when you go off half cocked.
We need international support, at least a no-fly zone.
Yeah, well, we didn't goad you into this "adventure."
Why is the world not supporting us?"
Because the world really does not see any need to do that. - Why should we spend blood & wealth for you?
I’ve seen many isolationist Paleo-Cons here on Free Republic that believe it’s ‘best’ if we step aside and let these ‘Animals’ cut each other throats. After all, they ‘Aren’t ready for Democracy’ and as ‘barbarians’ they ‘deserve to die.’ We ‘shouldn’t waste American blood’ (Even though no one has suggested invasion or occupation.)
Yeah, there are some people like that here, and they call themselves ‘Freepers.’
Umm...maybe because you are a moslem dirtbag just like the other moslem dirtbag? Hmm?
Islamic gratitude is very short-lived. I remember that we helped the Taliban in Afghanistan... and they hosted Al-Qaeda. I remember how much the Muslims loved us for taking the lead against the Serbians with respect to Bosnia. I remember Muslim love from Kosovo. I remember Iraqis turning on us just a few months after we freed them from Saddam. I remember Palestinians ululating and passing out candy in the streets on 9/11.
Sure, Daffy is a monster, and I hope he loses. I'd support humanitarian aid at the borders, but I would not support direct air actions. Like I said, he is awful, but the ones who replace him will hate us despite any help we give. We're kaffirs, and gratitude of any than a most fleeting sort is evidently not a prime virtue of the Ummah.
Count me in the group you've named.
Both sides are warring monsters and I have zero problem with their war stretching out across decades.
I am okay with humanitarian aid to those who flee the country, or for civilians after the war so long as it is done strictly by private organizations and not one cent is raised through taxation.
They were in the streets cheering the return of the Pan Am 103 bomber.
Now they want our military lives to be jeopardized for them?
What’s really shameful about Obama isn’t necessarily that he’s only not going to assist but that people in his administration are saying Qadaffi is going to win. It’s almost like that’s the desired outcome. Disgusting. If anyone here supports that, they should be ashamed to call themselves Freepers.
We have spent $1T in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last decade. Compare that to Desert Storm, which cost us nothing, thanks to massive Saudi ($40B), Kuwaiti ($10B) and Japanese ($10B) subsidies. I think you need to stop dusting off the isolationist label. A country with a supremacist ideology and territorial ambitions comparable to Nazi Germany's has emerged in the Western Pacific. That country is China. For us to fritter our limited resources away fighting and nation-building in Muslim countries whose population have hated the non-Muslim world's guts (far more than their existing leadership, which tends to be moderate) since Islam came to being is an exercise in futility. We have bigger fish to fry. The colossus in the Far East is quietly building its forces in preparation for the coming struggle over the first and second island chains. It is time to set priorities.
That's just silly. He was asked for his opinion before a congressional committee, and he gave that opinion. Would you rather he lied?
Pansy Graham asked him about mortal threats to the US and he replied that they were China and Russia, on account of their large nuclear arsenals (and loose official rhetoric about the use of nukes against the US). Graham wanted Clapper fired for telling the truth. He wanted Clapper to say that North Korea and Iran were the biggest threats. Carl Levin (D) and Joe Manchin (D) also got in a few digs at Clapper. What planet are these senators living on?
I'm with you there. Obama doesn't care about anything except himself, politics, blacks, Marxism, and Islam, in that approximate order.
That makes it easy to see why he would immediately take a position against Mubarak and rethink it, and also why he'd have a hard time deciding which way to go on Qadaffi.
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