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Jenkins: ObamaCare—Upheld and Doomed - Regardless of the Supreme Court, fiscal reality will prevail.
WSJ ^ | June 29, 2012 | HOLMAN W. JENKINS, JR.

Posted on 06/30/2012 9:18:35 AM PDT by Kaslin

Fans of ObamaCare must be busting a gut three times over. The mandate that conservatives now hate was originally a conservative proposal. In upholding it, Chief Justice John Roberts followed President Obama's Rose Garden instructions to the letter: The Court must find an act constitutional if it happens to be the signature act of a president running for re-election.

Worse, in doing so, he may have read any constitutional limit on Congress out of the Constitution while pretending to do the opposite. Congress cannot compel you to do anything Congress wishes, but it can impose taxes on you until you finally have no rational alternative but to do whatever Congress wishes.

History will judge whether Mr. Roberts saved the reputation of the court or lost his nerve. Many conservatives obviously suspect the latter. Resolved: The government cannot make you eat broccoli, though it may levy a non-broccoli-eating tax on any who refuse.

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1 posted on 06/30/2012 9:18:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Take your socialism and like it!


2 posted on 06/30/2012 9:24:46 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Kaslin
The government cannot make you eat broccoli, though it may levy a non-broccoli-eating tax on any who refuse.

"The Government" = people WE elect. If we elect the sort of people who would levy a non-broccoli-eating tax, then it will be self-inflicted.

3 posted on 06/30/2012 9:26:51 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Kaslin

Roberts needs to be impeached and removed.

Along with Holder. I’d throw Obama in there as well but with Plugs running things we’d be in worse shape.


4 posted on 06/30/2012 9:30:19 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Kaslin

Depending on courts to do our bidding is a fool’s game. Roberts has narrowed Obamacare’s elegibility and it can be reformed to actually serve people. We do require a healthcare and insurance system, it just needs to be run properly and privately. Let’s get to work on that and quit sniveling.


5 posted on 06/30/2012 9:30:19 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Depending on courts to do our bidding is a fool’s game.

That's what Roberts was saying. Don't expect an activist court to come riding to your rescue because Americans were dumb enough to elect socialists.

At the same time though, I think he could have done something different. What if Roberts did not vote at all. Leave the decision tied 4-4, with potential for review in the future. Its what such a crappy, vague law deserves - no clear consensus or stability.

6 posted on 06/30/2012 9:36:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kaslin
. . . . fiscal reality will prevail.

Since when has fiscal reality impacted the fog of Congress?

7 posted on 06/30/2012 9:36:21 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Kaslin

Obamacare is very unpopular, but the MSM keeps putting these left wing radicals in front of the camera as if they are normal people. It is a 24 hour Obamacare advertisement over and over like chalk on a board. Who in their right mind watches these shows?


8 posted on 06/30/2012 9:37:45 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: SaxxonWoods

” Let’s get to work on that and quit sniveling.”

Exactly right. But one thing I can’t understand...the Obamacare repeal bill Eric Cantor is introducing next week. What a waste of time. I’m sure Obama will sign it.


9 posted on 06/30/2012 9:38:12 AM PDT by moovova (Arrogance is believing that God needs an assistant (us).)
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To: Kaslin
In the slightly modified words of General Kimsey (from the movie Armageddon):

"The fate of the planet America is in the hands of a bunch of retards I wouldn't trust with a potato gun."
10 posted on 06/30/2012 9:39:43 AM PDT by microgood
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To: PGR88
That's what Roberts was saying. Don't expect an activist court to come riding to your rescue because Americans were dumb enough to elect socialists.
I basically agree with this. The solution is at the ballot box, not on the bench.
11 posted on 06/30/2012 9:49:29 AM PDT by samtheman (The ObamaCareTax is the Biggest Tax in the History of the World. Obama needs to go!)
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To: PGR88

Not saying that it is right, but did Roberts rule the mandate was unconstitutional while at the same time ruling the law as constitutional because of what harry Reid did in passing it under rules of reconciliation, as is used only for a tax? Its not that he killed the Commerce Clause but he could very well have hampered rulings using in the future.


12 posted on 06/30/2012 10:18:25 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: moovova

A bill to repeal Obamatax is not a waste of time. It forces house members to vote up or down on a “new” tax.


13 posted on 06/30/2012 10:21:23 AM PDT by RowdyYates
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To: RowdyYates

Thank you. Exactly. We all know it isn’t going to go anywhere but let’s get these scum on record for or against repeal of the New Slavery Act then let them explain their vote to their constituents.


14 posted on 06/30/2012 10:26:28 AM PDT by Sister_T
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To: FreedBird
Who in their right mind watches these shows?

Elderly people.

15 posted on 06/30/2012 10:39:38 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I miss Harriet Miers.)
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To: PGR88

GMAFB. Roberts is a traitor and a thug who just expanded the taxing power to include mandates and penalties on no-behavior and inactivity.

The Bushbots and Robertsbots and all F off and STFU w this kneepadding and shilling for these jerks.


16 posted on 06/30/2012 10:44:28 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Justices of the Supreme Court serve for life.

Where did you get the idea that they can be impeached?

Or are you being emotional, rather than logical?


17 posted on 06/30/2012 10:45:36 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: PGR88
"That's what Roberts was saying. Don't expect an activist court to come riding to your rescue because Americans were dumb enough to elect socialists."

I agree. Voters wanted "Change" in 2008. Well, they got "Change". In a little more than 4 months they have the opportunity to undo this mess. Roberts said voters can undo it with 51 votes in the Senate, because it is a tax.

If we get to 51 Republican votes in the Senate and the politicians still refuse to undo it, then it's time for the torches and pitchforks.

18 posted on 06/30/2012 10:58:07 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: mazda77
Roberts' references to the Commerce Clause are what shysters call dicta, irrelevant to any future lawmaking. They do not hinder the malignant abuse of the clause in the slightest and provide no precedent.
19 posted on 06/30/2012 11:13:17 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Salvation
Justices absolutely can be impeached, not that its going to happen here. Read what the Constitution says (Art. III Sec. 1).
20 posted on 06/30/2012 11:17:49 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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