Bill Nye’s Debate Nightmare

Daily Beast/Yahoo News ^ | February 5, 2014 | Michael Schulson

[GunRunner]

Believing that God created the universe does not by default translate into a blanket rejection of science.

That's not the main question. Believing that God created the world is not a rejection of science, but Young Earth creationism is.

The real question is what side your family members are on. Do they side with Intelligent Design and the Discovery Institute, or with Ham and his Young Earth Creationism?

And keep in mind that by the admission of both parties they are incompatible.

[MHGinTN]

well Fred, it is actually only six plus days old, based upon God’s perspective from the bang, dating by Universe doubling in size each day.

[SkyDancer]

It’s been a while - it happened in a church in CA. Maybe you could check with CRI.com

[SkyDancer]

Sometimes it’s brought up (but only when the Evolutionist does) but to show historic sites that people thought didn’t exist but were found. Just as an example.

[MHGinTN]

Would the explanation of an Astrophysicist satisfy you, Freddie?

[FredZarguna]

OK. I'll be very happy to hear a cosmologist explain how that works.

But you haven't. All you've done is articulated a baseless belief.

[metmom]

Please have the PhD physicists in your family sign in to your account and explain how the world is 6,000 years old.

Why are you ASSuming that all creationists believe that the world is 6,000 years old?

[editor-surveyor]

Thanks for the ping.

This is also being discussed here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3119934/posts

[MHGinTN]

Well here's a link, if you are actually interested, Freddie: http://www.geraldschroeder.com/AgeUniverse.aspx

[metmom]

The comment YOU made was this.....

But once they understand the creationism is actually a total rejection of science and is a cover for a repackaging of George McReady Price's flood geology, I think you'll see a decrease in adherence.

[editor-surveyor]

Nye is a born loser.

[metmom]

well Fred, it is actually only six plus days old, based upon God’s perspective from the bang, dating by Universe doubling in size each day.

Seems that the *scientists* on board don't understand time dilation.

Perhaps this article, written by an astrophysicist with a PhD from MIT, might enlighten them some.

The Age of the Universe

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3051495/posts

[metmom]

GMTA

[DoodleDawg]

I’ve heard Creationists debate Evolutionists without even mentioning the Bible. And won. The Evolutionist kept bringing up the Bible and the Creationist guy kept coming back to their arguments and blowing them away.

Creationists think that if they can somehow, someway disprove evolution then that means that their Biblical creation theory must be true. But there are dozens of creation stories proposed by different religions, races, and cultures. Disprove evolution and how do they then disprove those other creation theories based on no more evidence than their own is?

[DoodleDawg]

I can see Bill Nye losing big to a skinny bald guy in a red half-toga who claims the universe is an elephant on the backs of four turtles. Maybe even losing badly.

How does Ham beat the toga guy's argument?

[JSDude1]

Look I totally agree that while I know that the Bible is true,

to use real scientific evidence (which if the Biblical account is true should match up with the Biblical account; and does) is a MUST.

Ham might be a good evangelist, but is a poor scientist. I’ve been to his creation museum in KY, and got that it was basically an evangelism tool (which is important), but doesn’t have much hard science.

-JS.

[MHGinTN]

We have a few nasty negative nay-bobs at FR and they seem drawn to these types of threads. BTW, Bill Nye is a nasty piece of work, too. He is a short tempered, foul mouthed donkey.

[DoodleDawg]

The creation of the earth was not observed by any humans on the earth. Ken Ham has the only Eyewitness on his side.

Then maybe that Eyewitness should be debating and not Ham? What with Ham not being present at creation and all.

[editor-surveyor]

You live in a deluded alternate universe.

Do not pinch yourself!

[FredZarguna]

Well, Miggie, that's just a reworking of Barry Setterfield's thesis, which has been demolished numerous times from various angles.

Try again.