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To: jdsteel

Pam’s argument is essentially arguing against Reagan arming the Afghan muhajadeen in the 1980s, which had far worse consequences for America


6 posted on 07/02/2015 9:07:39 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

There was a big difference between arming the Afghan mujahedeen [which is what we did, originally with Dostum and Afghanistan’s defense chief Ahmed Massoud] and the Arab mujahedeen in Afghanistan [whom we did not arm, but whom various Islamic nations armed.]

Bin Laden made a point of not accepting US aid. Clinton later abandoned Massoud to go instead with the “strong horse” Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. In spite of this Massoud remained true blue until al Qaeda assassinated him just days before 9/11, while Hekmatyar later turned and joined with al Qaeda.


8 posted on 07/02/2015 9:37:35 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: MadIsh32

That was done to irritate the USSR at the time, and was a proxy war..

As was the Russian experience in the same place..


14 posted on 07/02/2015 9:50:20 PM PDT by Cold Heat ("In the last several elections we have not won the argument. We have not even made the argument.")
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To: MadIsh32

Actually, it was less Reagan who armed them than Charlie Wilson and the Saudis. And in the context of a global struggle against a brutally totalitarian state with global ambitions heavily armed with thermonuclear weapons, one can understand using whatever allies were at hand at the time. Forgetting/ignoring/being ignorant of the context of the Cold War must not be allowed or allowable.


23 posted on 07/03/2015 5:13:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MadIsh32

At that time taking down the USSR was more important. The ball was dropped in future administrations when we didn’t respond to Islamic terrorist strikes forcefully.


26 posted on 07/03/2015 8:23:36 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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