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Did Mossad kill Zia?
Rediff ^ | August 01, 2017 | Kallol Bhattacherjee

Posted on 07/31/2017 10:10:10 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 07/31/2017 10:10:10 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki; SJackson; Olog-hai; stephenjohnbanker; Mr Apple

India has an anti-Israel track record.

Ghandi was strongly anti-Semitic, hated Israel and corresponded with Hitler in a friendly way.

The lengthy article does not give a single bit of evidence for its premise.


2 posted on 07/31/2017 10:25:51 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

I decided it was entirely trash when I got to the end and Bhutto was never mentioned in the context of being a potential suspect.


3 posted on 07/31/2017 10:54:00 PM PDT by MrEdd (long hours)
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To: MarvinStinson

There’s also the matter of Indians reinforcing false Pakistani allegations against Israel with equally false allegations.


4 posted on 07/31/2017 11:00:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

[ The aircraft had taken off smoothly and had climbed to a height of 4,000 feet. Most eyewitnesses said that the aircraft appeared to be in a spin and hit the ground leaving behind an enormous cloud of smoke. ]

Well, then. That certainly proves the Mossad did it. Now what, break out The Protocls of The Learned Elders of Zion?


5 posted on 07/31/2017 11:01:36 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 21:36 KJV Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all...)
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To: SaveFerris

oops Protocols.

Muslims blaming the Jews? What, did the Sun come up today again?


6 posted on 07/31/2017 11:03:31 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 21:36 KJV Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all...)
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To: Gamecock; Larry Lucido; KC_Lion; FredZarguna; PROCON; raygunfan

George: “uhhh....Astroturf! You know who invented Astroturf?!! The Jews!! The Jews hate grass.....”


7 posted on 07/31/2017 11:05:27 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 21:36 KJV Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all...)
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To: SaveFerris

I sure hope Mossad is keeping a close watch on Pakistan.

Pakistan is a danger to the entire world.

Loose nukes among Muslim extremists is NOT GOOD!


8 posted on 07/31/2017 11:07:24 PM PDT by Bobalu ( Healthcare - someone must pay. Who should it be, and how did they get that obligation?)
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To: Bobalu

Oh I’m sure they have a plan. Like we do. Multiple contingencies.

They had a plan for Moscow if it came down to that. A tough target to crack but they had a designated squadron.


9 posted on 07/31/2017 11:10:56 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 21:36 KJV Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Zia and friend:


10 posted on 07/31/2017 11:17:45 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Gamecock; Larry Lucido; KC_Lion; FredZarguna; PROCON; raygunfan

[ Excerpted from The Great Game ]

But have they read “The Big Game”?

George: So, um, you’ve read “The Big Game”, have you?

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Eva: Well, this is sort of embarrassing, but it’s changed my life. The way you analyzed the game? The way you identify the major players? Well it left me breathless. You’re a brilliant, brilliant man.

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Tim: Just a game. He’s so humble. Don’t forget what you wrote in the epilogue, the fate of the world depends on the outcome of this game.

George: Well, I was exaggerating a bit, just for effect.


11 posted on 07/31/2017 11:23:48 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 21:36 KJV Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all...)
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Zia was most likely killed by the Soviets. The best theory I’ve read - which also explains the plane’s unusual flight pattern - consistent with the pilots being unconscious - described a nerve agent being released in the cockpit once the flight reached a certain altitude.

Of course, it could have been just an accident, and we’ll never know (unless the KGB/Soviet files are ever truly opened).

But Zia was providing the bulwark of the support of Afghanistan rebels to the Soviet occupation next door. No one wanted him dead more than the communists.


12 posted on 07/31/2017 11:39:55 PM PDT by Simon Foxx
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Did Mossad really have reason or interest to kill him?


13 posted on 07/31/2017 11:51:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Simon Foxx

Simon Foxx: I like your theory because it fits in with what was going on in those days.

However, we always can fall back on The Helen Thomas Theory which simply consists of “blaming everything on the Joosz”.

Helen is known in Hell as the “Devil’s Fart”.

Piss be upon her!


14 posted on 08/01/2017 1:26:40 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why John Gunther Dean was allowed to continue in the State Department after his disastrous assignment to I Corps in Viet Nam can only be explained by his close relationship with Henry Kissinger. As for this pot-boiler, it needs to be read with skepticism.


15 posted on 08/01/2017 4:02:23 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: Simon Foxx

Really don’t need a nerve against. Just flip a switch or faulty breaker that fails to pressurize the cabin. The masks deploy automatically in the passenger compartments but are manually deployed in the cockpit.

The pilots could simply have become anoxic and that’s all she wrote.


16 posted on 08/01/2017 4:40:16 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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The altitude was said to be 4,000 feet


17 posted on 08/01/2017 4:55:15 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: SaveFerris

Okay, I confess that I killed Gen. Zia. I sent my psychic thoughts from America to crash his plane (even Pat Buchanan didn’t blame Israel for Gen. Zia’s death).


18 posted on 08/01/2017 5:09:39 AM PDT by Stepan12 (It is Civil War right now.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I do not like the idea that a diplomat is “determined” by “state department psychiatrists” to be mentally unstable due to stress, anytime

(it should be totally independent outside health professionals who make such a finding - for the individual, with the report going to the state department) -

but it is particularly disconcerting when the circumstances are that the diplomat is in strong disagreement with the top policy makers at the state department and/or White House.

However, I can’t imagine on what grounds Mr Dean had any reason to suspect Israel, other than some mad conspiracy theory. What was Israel to gain from it?

I would question most an “inside job” via a mole, a Zia opponent deep inside his “closest advisors”. Why else would anyone arrange a trip putting at possible risk Zia and his whole intelligence brass?


19 posted on 08/01/2017 5:53:39 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Stepan12

That’s pretty amazing!

Gee, we could have used you with (comment deleted) and when (comment deleted).


20 posted on 08/01/2017 3:10:29 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 21:36 KJV Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all...)
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