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Public workers from two more California towns expected to lose CalPERS pensions
Sacramento Bee ^ | 09/13/2017

Posted on 09/14/2017 6:53:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Ten workers and retirees from government agencies in two far corners of California likely will see their pensions slashed because their employers have not paid bills to the state’s largest retirement fund in more than a year.

Trinity County Waterworks District No. 1 west of Redding and Niland Sanitary District from Imperial County are in line to become the third and fourth government agencies to break with CalPERS over the past 12 months in a manner that shortchanges their retirees.

The CalPERS Board of Administration is scheduled next week to vote on ending contracts with the two small districts because they’re in default.

The districts are expected to join the town of Loyalton in Sierra County and an organization called the East San Gabriel Valley Health Consortium as small governments that are falling out of CalPERS because of different financial stresses.

In Trinity, five current and former employees will see promised pensions slashed by 70 percent. Niland’s five beneficiaries will see a 92 percent to 100 percent cut in pension benefits, according to CalPERS’ staff reports.

To fully fund their workers’ pensions, the two districts would have to muster up hefty termination fees. CalPERS asks for that money up front, and then moves the separating agency to a low-risk fund called the terminated agency pool.

CalPERS says Niland owes about $200,000 to cover the long-term costs of its employees’ pensions in the terminated agency pool, while Trinity owes some $1.6 million. Trinity has asked CalPERS for a 30-year, no-interest payment plan to cover the termination fee, but the district and the pension fund have not reached a deal, according to CalPERS.

More than 1,500 local government agencies are part of CalPERS, the $333 billion pension fund. As a whole, CalPERS has about 68 percent of the assets it would need

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calpers; pensions
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1 posted on 09/14/2017 6:53:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 09/14/2017 6:54:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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3 posted on 09/14/2017 6:54:28 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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4 posted on 09/14/2017 6:54:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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That is what happens when you pay people not to work.


5 posted on 09/14/2017 6:56:35 PM PDT by Fungi (90 percent of all soil biomass is a fungus. Fungi rule the world.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What an interesting way to run a retirement fund.

Something smells really rotten about this.

It’s not going to be pretty.


6 posted on 09/14/2017 7:06:14 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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And not a one will serve a day of time.

It's good to be part of the government elite.

7 posted on 09/14/2017 7:08:07 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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99.9% of these employees voted “Rat” and this is what they got “Rat Poop”! The hard working neighbor told me: “But the Union told us to vote this way.” OMG!!!


8 posted on 09/14/2017 7:08:25 PM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2017!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So have they notified the participants that the fund is endangered?( for multi employer plans)

Nothing to see here it’s a government operation.

Endangered, Critical, or Critical and Declining Status

Under federal pension law, a plan generally is in “endangered” status if its funded percentageis less than 80 percent. A plan is in “critical” status if the funded percentage is less than 65percent (other factors mayalso apply). A plan is in “critical and declining” status if it is incritical status and is projected to becomeinsolvent (run out of money to pay benefits) within 15years (or within 20 years if a special rule applies). If a pension plan enters endangered status,the trustees of the plan are required to adopt a funding improvem entplan. Similarly, if apension plan enters critical status or critical and declining status, the trustees of the plan arerequired to adopt a rehabilitation plan. Funding improvement and rehabilitation plansestablish s t epsand benchmarks for pension plans to improve their funding status over aspecified period of time. The plansponsor of a plan in critical and declining status may applyfor approval to amend the plan to reduce currentand future payment obligations toparticipants and beneficiaries


9 posted on 09/14/2017 7:11:06 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Please! DonÂ’t tell me about Vietnam because I have been there.)
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0.6% in 2016? The S&P 500 went up 11.96% that year. How much do you have to either skim or “invest” in politically favored companies to get down to 0.6%?


10 posted on 09/14/2017 7:39:48 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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A person who works in the public school system in Grass Valley CA told me that althogh the pay wasn’t anything close to the Bay Area...that PERS put in .25 for every dollar in salary...vested after 5 years.

Well, I wasn’t ultimately interested in working in CA but I wonder if that money will ever been seen.


11 posted on 09/14/2017 7:53:42 PM PDT by Aria
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$333 billion

Keeping all the pension money in one basket

is STUPID!


12 posted on 09/14/2017 7:54:10 PM PDT by TheNext (Obamacare is KILLING GRANDMA!)
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It’s been rotten here in CA for decades, but the problem isn’t so much with CALPERS as it is with the agencies and local governments inability to fund the lavish pensions they’ve set up. And we’ve had several municipal bankruptcies recently where the bankruptcy court has told the cities that they could trim pensions, and they have chosen not to do so. How they have managed to go through the process successfully remains a mystery to me. My bet is that they will go bust again, soon.


13 posted on 09/14/2017 8:05:15 PM PDT by vette6387 ( I)
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Might be a good idea to advertise the sale of automatic weapons into the areas where they will kill the pensions.


14 posted on 09/14/2017 8:06:29 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats want to teach anal sex in school. Republicans want to teach gun safety.)
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“are in line to become the third and fourth government agencies to break with CalPERS over the past 12 months in a manner that shortchanges their retirees.”

I have no sympathy for people who believe the promises made by politicians.

None.

L


15 posted on 09/14/2017 8:10:41 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Coming eventually to most government workers.
Tiny violins.


16 posted on 09/14/2017 8:12:23 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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"Well, I wasn’t ultimately interested in working in CA but I wonder if that money will ever been seen."

It's already been "seen." Quite a few well connected bigwigs have already had a close look and taken their taste. As to the intended recipients... nahh, they're screwed. LOL to anyone having any faith in any govt promise.
17 posted on 09/14/2017 8:16:03 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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Yawn.

My local newspapers debated this on a fairly continuous basis throughout the sixties and seventies.

I have gone over the numbers with idiots all my life who believed having basic math and the details of government pension plans explained to them equated to wacko conspiracy theories.

Now the say of reckoning is close and most of those who initiated this crap are long dead.


18 posted on 09/14/2017 8:17:09 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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The districts are expected to join the town of Loyalton in Sierra County and an organization called the East San Gabriel Valley Health Consortium as small governments that are falling out of CalPERS because of different financial stresses.

Financial stresses? How about it's own members looting the system?

I could name some things causing these stresses. These unionized mobsters saw this coming long ago. So bad in the counties and cities, fire and the cops and public employees are about the only ones nowadays who readily qualify for $750,000 higher end homes in CA. It's where they can park their high end Lexus and corvettes etc. Just pick your home, it's no problem. One can imagine what the city attorneys, DA's, city council members, water and power, street workers, contractors and all their staff's are milking the system for.

And Btw, they should take a real hard look at those juggling the CalPERS books.☺

The CA private sector downsized significantly long ago. Public employees will eventually follow suit, no choice. Or CA can just continue looting and beating down what's left of middle class with their punitive taxes...Which I'm convinced is their ultimate goal anyway. Their bosses want Trump supporters and deplorable middle class white folk run out. Some within the state have come out and said as much. So there ya have it. The whole enchilada.

19 posted on 09/14/2017 8:25:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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It’s been rotten here in CA for decades, but the problem isn’t so much with CALPERS as it is with the agencies and local governments inability to fund the lavish pensions they’ve set up.

Lavish is not an overstatement. It's very odd, for public employees, also known as public servants, the economy has been really good...forever and gets better. Their unions make sure of it! ☺ Meanwhile, private sector middle class in CA got beat like a drum. All this while listening to regular radio spots from unions representing teachers demanding more cash, benefits and prizes. I think they go on year round. Seems like it.

20 posted on 09/14/2017 9:04:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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