Posted on 10/29/2019 6:55:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
It looks like Israel will be heading to a third election. It seems both sides, Netanyahu’s right and Gantz’s left-center cannot get the 61 votes needed to get a majority in the Knesset. There is one villain in this, and one victor.
The reason Netanyahu could not get a victory is that Avigdor Lieberman refuses to throw his weight behind a Netanyahu coalition, unless the special privileges tendered to the religious right are done away with. For years, the religious right have wrested a lot of concessions from the Israeli state, such as draft exemptions and control of marriage.
Secular Israelis complain that Haredim take advantage of social welfare but do not contribute to the military or the economy. - The Conversation
And then there are the marriage laws:
The Israeli government has granted authority over marriage only to the Orthodox rabbinate, not Reform, Conservative or any other more liberal denomination. And the Orthodox rabbinate’s strict rules bar many secular and Reform Jews from getting married at all. - Washington Post
The attitude of some of the Orthodox Rabbis towards the non-Orthodox can be incomprehensible. Israel’s Chief Rabbi would not refer to the Pittsburgh synagogue – where the massacre occurred last year – as a synagogue, as it was not Orthodox.
Israel’s Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi David Lau on Sunday condemned the killing of 11 American Jews in the Conservative Tree of Life Synagogue, but seemed to equivocate on calling the house of worship a synagogue, instead terming it “a place of clear Jewish character.” - Times of Israel
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Let the seculars have their way.
It is not. It's perfectly comprehensible.
The restored Biblical Theocracy can't come quickly enough.
“seemed to equivocate on calling the house of worship a synagogue”
The word is from a Greek word meaning “assembly”, and certainly Jews assemble there. His equivocation seems baseless, even if he questions whether Judaism is being practiced there.
This article is depressing. It reads like the paralysis is going to be slow death for Israel.
Israeli politics are pretty complex.
There is a natural right wing majority but unless Lieberman is willing to bend, things will remain at a stalemate for the foreseeable future.
What?
The Haredim live off welfare and don’t contribute to the armed forces.
So the non-Orthodox have to work and pay for the Orthodox to live and the non-Orthodox also have to fight and die for the Orthodox.
And the Orthodox act sniffy to them???
The Orthodox should be conscripted and should go and work.
RE: The Orthodox should be conscripted and should go and work.
The Orthodox in the USA WORK and many have their own businesses. What makes the Orthodox in Israel different?
“What makes the Orthodox in Israel different?”
Much more political clout. Same as it ever was.
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RE: Much more political clout. Same as it ever was.
I was referring to their lifestyle (work and employment, business, etc. ) , not their political clout.
I dunno. btw, I specifically meant the Orthodox in Israel. I have no doubt they can be an asset both to the workforce and the military.
Thanks for your information.
I do have a few questions:
1) How large is the Haredim with respect to the Israeli voting population?
2) Do their members get professional (non-religious) degrees in college, find employment or own businesses?
Thanks
You mean ‘many of the ultraOrthodox’.
The Dati Leumi (Religious Nationalists) represent a majority of the Orthodox and are over represented in the IDF and don’t collect welfare.
Haredi ultraOrthodox represent maybe 10% of the population, and certainly not all of them collect welfare or skip the military.
Give us Barabbas!
Personal status laws such as marriage are the same as they have always been among Jews in the Land of Israel. The modern state incorporated certain recognition of traditional Judaism as part of its ‘basic law’ as a way to assure unity in 1947. It’s known as the Status Quo of 1947 and is the equivalent of Constitutional law in the US.
Socialists/communists continue to lose their grasp over Israel, so naturally are in a panic to make Israel the equivalent of New York or California.
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