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Yes, a fair impeachment inquiry would question Hunter Biden
NY Post ^ | 11/11/19 | Jonathan S. Tobin

Posted on 11/12/2019 2:00:15 AM PST by Libloather

After weeks of conducting hearings in private, the House impeachment ­inquiry is going public this week. But if the Democrats stage-managing this affair have their way, there will be one ­element of their presidential-misconduct allegations that won’t be part of the show: Hunter Biden.

Democrats believe that the vice-presidential son’s Ukraine shenanigans are irrelevant to impeachment. They want the hearings to be entirely focused on their accusation that President Trump threatened to withhold American military aid to force Kiev to investigate a political rival.

They say that questions about what Hunter did or didn’t do, and what his father knew and when he knew it, are just a conspiracy theory floated by Trump and his followers to confuse the American people.

But even if you buy the Democrats’ premise that Trump’s ­request was not merely inappropriate but illegal and a crime so terrible that it justifies impeachment, this makes no sense.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenfamily; hunter; inquiry; tobin; trumpukraine; ukraine
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How can the House examine this matter without probing Trump’s motivation for requesting that Ukraine investigate the Bidens?

Where's Hunter?

1 posted on 11/12/2019 2:00:15 AM PST by Libloather
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Repubs should just show clips of Hunter’s recent self-serving TV interview.


2 posted on 11/12/2019 2:08:05 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Libloather

Exculpatory evidence Is irrelevant.
/Leftbot


3 posted on 11/12/2019 2:11:28 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the worldÂ’s problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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To: Libloather

When this goes to the Senate where Republicans are in control of the subpoena and witness list, this then becomes about Joe Biden and Biden’s primary run will be over. That is why you have these additional Johnny come lately dems like Bloomberg and Patrick making noises about entering the Dem primary as “moderates” to replace him as the moderate in their primary


4 posted on 11/12/2019 2:41:06 AM PST by chuckee
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To: Libloather
Fair...... name one thing that's fair about this Pelosi charade?
5 posted on 11/12/2019 3:36:53 AM PST by wardamneagle
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To: Libloather

The President has a legal obligation to investigate corruption. So the entire defense of Trump hinges on showing the corruption that Biden used his political office to secure financial positions in Ukraine for a close family member.


6 posted on 11/12/2019 4:00:01 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Libloather

A defense cannot be, “I did it but so did he.” Biden is not relevant to the impeachment process. Biden is relevant only to the fact that Trump asked the Ukraine President to look into Biden’s behavior and attempt at bribery during the PREVIOUS election. President Trump did exactly what he should have done according to law and precedent, therefore, citing that fact is the only defense I and most people would understand and support. KEEP IT SIMPLE.

Once this is over an investigation must be held on Biden and his son.


7 posted on 11/12/2019 4:22:20 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (WT)
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To: Libloather
Hiding so he won’t end up sleeping with the fishes?
8 posted on 11/12/2019 4:24:00 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Islam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit — Jeffrey Epstein didn)
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INCONVENIENT FACTOID: “Extortion” is used in the language of legal jurisprudence.
The word has no legal connotation in foreign policy lingo.

We need to drive home these facts:
<><> Dems are punishing the president with impeachment
<><> they would protect a foreign govt over the US;
<><> they are putting the foreign policy of other countries ahead of the interests of the USA.

(Hat tip Political Junkie Too)
Democrats are protecting the interests of foreign countries by using the word “extortion” to refer to foreign policy.


9 posted on 11/12/2019 4:35:46 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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So, if Hunter is a no-show, I'm sure he wont mind if Republicans blow-up this handsome group photo 100 times
larger and display it during the hearings.........Hunter's dad being Pres Obama's point man in Ukraine, and such.


10 posted on 11/12/2019 4:43:37 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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The Mach One impeachment roll-out, every Dem and his cousin in place to impeach....
the intricate scheduling, the minute details, the impeachment script....that took months of meticulous planning.

Yet no-no Nanzi allover TV kept “saying” there’ll be no impeachment…......lying to Americans....
even as she was planning every frickin’ detail to get Trump.

Nanzi and the Dem mob are running a classic “Clip Joint”....taxpayers are being tricked into paying
good money and receive in return nothing but poor Congressional services that are fatally flawed.


11 posted on 11/12/2019 4:53:44 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Libloather

If there’s nothing questionable about the Biden’s Ukraine activity then what’s the problem with the President asking about it?


12 posted on 11/12/2019 6:33:44 AM PST by GaryCrow
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To: New Jersey Realist

You are correct, but seem to confuse the issue in attempting to clarify it.

1.Where you are correct: the accused need only point out the other side hasn’t proven its case; viz., that the transcript shows that the hearsay evidence concerning his phone call is wrong.

2.Where you may be misleading: the accused need not present an affirmative defense, meaning an alternate theory of the crime / interpretation of the evidence. This happened every week on Perry Mason way back when. Perry Mason, the defense attorney, solved the crime during cross-examination, following which the witness or somebody in the audience confessed. In real life, this is rare. But, in this case, this is what we have. Rudy Giuliani, in his capacity as Trump’s private attorney, and Bob Barr, as the U.S. Attorney General, have solved the crime. This affirmative defense will be, if it isn’t already, the Democrat’s worst nightmare.

I suspect Joe Biden will be nudged out of the race, and impeachment will be dragged out, and kept behind closed doors, until after the election; at which point, it will be dropped.


13 posted on 11/12/2019 7:03:52 AM PST by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: Libloather
The process is specifically designed NOT to be fair. They learned well from Hillary's days during the Nixon impeachment when Hillary was fired for not only lying, but in her plans to take away Nixon's Constitutional rights.

If you saw the Impeachment Rules markup in the Rules Committee, it was made quite clear that Trump is "not allowed" to utilize judicial review for any of the unlawful demands the House is placing on him.

If the Impeachment Cabal says "Jump!", Trump is to reflexively respond "Yes, Mr. Schiff! How high?".

This is becoming a "dung heap", like the Democrats portrayed during the Clinton impeachment.

14 posted on 11/12/2019 7:49:14 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Libloather

A fair one would question him, and his father, and anyone else involved in this scheme.


15 posted on 11/12/2019 7:52:11 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Libloather
Joe Biden is a criminal worthy of impeachment and jail time and Hunter is (at the very least) a grifter. But there is probably a lot more than that going on here than mere nepotism.

After all, the Ukraine is missing billions of dollars in foreign aid and guaranteed loans which simply "vanished" during this time period. Be assured it didn't simply vanish into thin air, never to be seen again. There are thieving pockets involved and many of them are no doubt American ones. A lot of Democrat politicians, bureaucrats, and well connected lobbyists are enjoying Ukrainian funded fat bank accounts, fancy cars, and expansive digs in the DC suburbs, in the Hamptons, and on Martha's Vineyard.

It's no wonder Schitt is not allowing Joe or Hunter Biden to testify. It would blow their whole thieving operation of looting of the Ukraine wide open.

16 posted on 11/12/2019 7:54:11 AM PST by Gritty (Trump Derangement Syndrome is the country fracturing into warring alien tribes - Daniel Greenfield)
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To: Libloather

This is a Charade, The GOP needs to have some fun with it, perhaps they need to bring some cotton candy and fried dough to the meetings, things one might eat at a circus.


17 posted on 11/12/2019 7:54:51 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Liz

I doubt they would be allowed to by Conrade Schiff.


18 posted on 11/12/2019 9:18:51 AM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: chuckee

I am still hoping that the Senate will simply reject the impeachment out of hand and call it a mistrial.


19 posted on 11/12/2019 9:20:06 AM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: Gritty

Well, let’s see. Some $1.8 billion in aid which mysteriously disappeared. Hunter biden mysteriously hauls in $1 million per year (not counting his Chinese money). His father engages in a real quid pro quo to safeguard his son. Nothing here to see, move on?!?!?!?


20 posted on 11/12/2019 9:25:41 AM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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