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Oregon’s Rural-Urban Divide Sparks Talk of Secession
DNYUZ ^ | 03/18/2023 | Staff

Posted on 03/18/2023 12:30:10 PM PDT by thegagline

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Here in Texas, we have the TEXIT/Texas Nationalist Movement. This maybe the way to go going forward.


1 posted on 03/18/2023 12:30:10 PM PDT by thegagline
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To: thegagline
Once this happens in a couple of states, it will spread like a snowball turning into an avalanche, all throughout America.

2 posted on 03/18/2023 12:34:08 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them,....


3 posted on 03/18/2023 12:41:12 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: thegagline

What they are proposing isn’t “Secession”. They aren’t trying to formally withdraw from the United States.

Secondly, why would Congress need to get involved? If the states want to do some re-arranging of their borders, why not? It would seem to me if this were something they wanted to do, they would have no problem with it.

Ultimately I think this is a reflection or a legacy on the Reynolds case decided by the supreme court - less populated counties or rural areas have had no defense against the large city centers for some time now.

Or put another way, what did you guys think would happen??


4 posted on 03/18/2023 12:44:27 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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Too late. Idaho is going woke.


5 posted on 03/18/2023 12:45:12 PM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: thegagline

Texas should also say it will repudiate its share of the national debt.

THAT alone would put handcuffs on Fed.gov, the leftists who control it, and their thousands of social-engineering schemes.


6 posted on 03/18/2023 12:45:54 PM PDT by PGR88
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Mr. Nash said. “I’d just rather we figure out how to restore Oregon to a better place.”

Good luck with that, Mr. Nash. Conservatives are not ok with open borders, dope growing, dope using, or baby killing.

7 posted on 03/18/2023 12:52:28 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The government's lying liars love to lie)
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“Too late. Idaho is going woke.”

It’s immigration by coastal parasites that have killed their host and have moved on to another.


8 posted on 03/18/2023 12:53:33 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: thegagline

I believe the problem about secession was ruled upon in 1869.

Texas vs White

https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas-v-White

Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede.


9 posted on 03/18/2023 1:02:46 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede.

Sounds curiously like slavery.

10 posted on 03/18/2023 1:09:40 PM PDT by seowulf ("Thou art but a poor soul laden with a lifeless body." ---Epictetus)
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To: dljordan

Exactly


11 posted on 03/18/2023 1:14:47 PM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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This is making me think that a proposal I heard decades ago has some merit.

Any city that reaches population of half a million will be declared a "City-State" and be spun off into it's own entity.

It will be awarded one Representative and one Senator to represent it's interests nationally.

12 posted on 03/18/2023 1:30:45 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ("EATING... BABIES.... IS NOT.... COOL!" -Rath)
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Too late. Idaho is going woke.


Pretty much. I give them another decade.


13 posted on 03/18/2023 1:33:01 PM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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Pretty sure the parasites stayed put on the coast.


14 posted on 03/18/2023 1:35:53 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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What is needed is clean and honest elections. The political climate in many states will look a lot different.


15 posted on 03/18/2023 1:48:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Never worry about anything. Worry never solved any problem or moved any stone.)
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To: thegagline

The problems here are that the libs in Salem NEED to hold dominion over everyone in the state. As they would be nothing without the subjudgated masses. Secondly, if the population of Oregon were to plummet, that would impact congressional representation.

So, long story long, there’s no way they’re going to let them go.


16 posted on 03/18/2023 1:54:01 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: thegagline

Isn’t it more the crazy/normal divide?


17 posted on 03/18/2023 2:03:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Secondly, why would Congress need to get involved?


The Constitution. States combining, splitting, etc. requires approval of the state legislatures involved as well as U.S. Congress.


18 posted on 03/18/2023 2:14:23 PM PDT by hanamizu
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The late Illinois Senator Everett Dirkson predicted all of this with his commentary on the USSC ruling of Reynolds vs Sims. The prediction was more in the context of what it would do to Illinois then other states but the principle would be the same. He said this ruling would allow the urban centers with their large populations to dominate and make subservient the more rural sections of the state. He specifically pointed out that this would allow Chicago to completely dominate the state and render the other counties\sections economic slaves to the excesses of the city. That prediction has more then played out to be true in Illinois, New York, Pennsylvania, California, etc.

This is part and parcel of the continued effort from the Wlison Administration, accelerated by the FDR regime to now, to imbalance the republic-democracy arrangement of the Founding Fathers. End goal is to remove the “republic” nature of our government from our government. Create the “mob-ocracy” our Founders feared. Ask supposedly educated people about the definitions of “republic “ and “democracy “. The answers you get will get is various combinations of hilarity, sadness & frightfullness.


19 posted on 03/18/2023 2:27:13 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

If they were trying to secede from the United States, you might have a point.


20 posted on 03/18/2023 2:27:50 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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