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Here in Texas, we have the TEXIT/Texas Nationalist Movement. This maybe the way to go going forward.


1 posted on 03/18/2023 12:30:10 PM PDT by thegagline
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To: thegagline
Once this happens in a couple of states, it will spread like a snowball turning into an avalanche, all throughout America.

2 posted on 03/18/2023 12:34:08 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them,....


3 posted on 03/18/2023 12:41:12 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: thegagline

What they are proposing isn’t “Secession”. They aren’t trying to formally withdraw from the United States.

Secondly, why would Congress need to get involved? If the states want to do some re-arranging of their borders, why not? It would seem to me if this were something they wanted to do, they would have no problem with it.

Ultimately I think this is a reflection or a legacy on the Reynolds case decided by the supreme court - less populated counties or rural areas have had no defense against the large city centers for some time now.

Or put another way, what did you guys think would happen??


4 posted on 03/18/2023 12:44:27 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: thegagline

Too late. Idaho is going woke.


5 posted on 03/18/2023 12:45:12 PM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: thegagline

Texas should also say it will repudiate its share of the national debt.

THAT alone would put handcuffs on Fed.gov, the leftists who control it, and their thousands of social-engineering schemes.


6 posted on 03/18/2023 12:45:54 PM PDT by PGR88
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Mr. Nash said. “I’d just rather we figure out how to restore Oregon to a better place.”

Good luck with that, Mr. Nash. Conservatives are not ok with open borders, dope growing, dope using, or baby killing.

7 posted on 03/18/2023 12:52:28 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The government's lying liars love to lie)
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To: thegagline

I believe the problem about secession was ruled upon in 1869.

Texas vs White

https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas-v-White

Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede.


9 posted on 03/18/2023 1:02:46 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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This is making me think that a proposal I heard decades ago has some merit.

Any city that reaches population of half a million will be declared a "City-State" and be spun off into it's own entity.

It will be awarded one Representative and one Senator to represent it's interests nationally.

12 posted on 03/18/2023 1:30:45 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ("EATING... BABIES.... IS NOT.... COOL!" -Rath)
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What is needed is clean and honest elections. The political climate in many states will look a lot different.


15 posted on 03/18/2023 1:48:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Never worry about anything. Worry never solved any problem or moved any stone.)
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To: thegagline

The problems here are that the libs in Salem NEED to hold dominion over everyone in the state. As they would be nothing without the subjudgated masses. Secondly, if the population of Oregon were to plummet, that would impact congressional representation.

So, long story long, there’s no way they’re going to let them go.


16 posted on 03/18/2023 1:54:01 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: thegagline

Isn’t it more the crazy/normal divide?


17 posted on 03/18/2023 2:03:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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The rural/urban divide isn’t just in Oregon.

Take: Georgia, Illinois, NY, Michigan, Wisconsin, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Washington and coming soon….South Carolina and Tennessee


24 posted on 03/18/2023 2:44:31 PM PDT by qaz123
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the movement has followed the appropriate channels and opened up an opportunity for western Oregonians to take notice of why people on the other side of the state have grown so disaffected.

They don't care. People who don't agree with progressives are not considered deserving of basic civil rights. The constant bleating of "Our Democracy" means that to their majority absolutely everything is up for grabs including the property, the wealth, and the children of anyone outside it - and their civil rights as well, which is why the Founders rejected democracy and opted for a republic. The proggies will turn dissident or disobedient areas into barbed-wire prison camps before they'll allow them freedom.

27 posted on 03/18/2023 3:07:07 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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The Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, a part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791. It expresses the principle of federalism, also known as states’ rights, by stating that the federal government has only those powers delegated to it by the Constitution, and that all other powers not forbidden to the states by the Constitution are reserved to each state.

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Aggressive and fastidious enforcement of the 10th Ammendment upon the federal government by the states would, long term, and in just this mans opinion, be better for America.


38 posted on 03/18/2023 5:48:40 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; 1malumprohibitum; ...
If you would like more information about what’s happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me. Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.
39 posted on 03/19/2023 5:44:17 AM PDT by Twotone
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