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To: desertsolitaire
And what has been accomplished there?

Protecting oil?

4 posted on 01/24/2024 10:13:29 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

Arabs can’t drink their oil. It does not matter who controls the oil, a dictator or sheikh or a democratic government. They will all sell oil at market price.


23 posted on 01/24/2024 10:29:31 AM PST by Bobbyvotes
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To: JonPreston

We have our own oil


30 posted on 01/24/2024 10:47:49 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: JonPreston

More like taking over oil/gas:

—Syria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

—Iraq: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

—Libya: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya

—Venezuela: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gideon_(2020)

These are ALL Russian aligned or formal allies as with Syria (since 1970 Russia has had a naval and air base there).

We got involved in these places based on lies, like Iraq with WMD, or false pretenses like Syria and the BS about a red line and chem weapons. It’s always been about oil. It’s what we worry about when we go into these places: https://apnews.com/article/334caccc941b40c99f0a6b9c40cd66cc

Russia is weak. They are an empire in decline and we smell blood in the water. Post Cold War, as time progressed, we have become more and more assertive and belligerent. Our overwhelming economic, political and military hegemony has caused our policy makers to begin acting with impunity. But what we have also caused is for much of the world to begin uniting against us.

This isn’t about our “defense” or “national security.” It’s about us ensuring we are the single source provider of oil and gas on this planet, that essentially anything which fly’s, goes across the ocean, hauls heavy loads on the roads, or pulls things or rail tracks keeps running using energy we control.

There are only 2 nations in this world which control the worlds energy (have ownership or control over the real estate where it comes from), the US and Russia. We control about 2/3rds (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Nigeria...), and the Russians control about 1/3 (Venezuela, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya...). That does not include what we’re actively trying to tear away from them today.

Even if you have a French (Fina, Total), Dutch (Shell) or British (BP) oil company operating somewhere, the truth is it’s still the US which controls that nation where they are operating from, i.e. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Nigeria... In fact, that was a very sticky point when the French opposed the Iraq war in 2003 and then we went in. The French were worried that we would give them the boot. The point is, in the background we control the area, even if you have other countries operating there.

If you notice, you do not see the US concerned much about the Republic of Armenia, what was done with them historically or the threat they face today from the Turks. All these democracy, sovereignty, human rights nonsense arguments are cheesy rationalizations for what is really economically motivated, expeditionary and offensive in nature.

We use these false pretenses to garner support by the masses but they are selectively applied since we do not care much about the human rights abuses by our own allies Saudi Arabia and Jordan and our number one trade partner is a single party communist regime (no democracy) with a human rights record about as bad as they come, PRC. In fact, so ironic is all this false rationalizing that in Syria where we wanted to topple the government and install ours, we ended up supporting folks that were Islamist, as in chop at the neck types after the forces of the groups we were backing began to run out of people. It was actually the government of Assad which was more secular and us arming whack jobs there, just like we armed some whack jobs in Ukraine (Azov) when that benefited us.

We need to calm down and the enemy of our enemy is not always our friend.


39 posted on 01/24/2024 11:29:01 AM PST by Red6
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