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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Something is up with European leadership and Russia may not have anything to do with it.

This whole rush to war thing is quite odd. What are they planning?

Is the leadership trying to distract their populations from problems they created? IDK.


11 posted on 03/09/2024 11:44:48 AM PST by packagingguy
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In a lot of the countries like Sweden their culture is under attack by the immigrants over the past ten years or so. If they don’t create an external threat, they won’t be able to maintain internal order.

The US has been doing this for 80 years.


12 posted on 03/09/2024 11:47:18 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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The entire EU, like th3 West, is committing suicide. By embracing the ways of the West, gay marriage , climate change hoax, Trans xYz, boys in girls bathrooms, men in woman’s sports, destruction of the family, mass importation of illegals, embracing Islam, their outlook for survival is slim. Why is the West so intent on committing suicide?


14 posted on 03/09/2024 11:53:44 AM PST by delta7
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To: packagingguy
Is the leadership trying to distract their populations from problems they created?

Yes.

22 posted on 03/09/2024 12:19:37 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: packagingguy

“Something is up with European leadership and Russia may not have anything to do with it.”

Russia of course has everything to do with it. After hundreds of years Sweden abandoned neutrality because they realized that there is no clear limit to the territorial appetite of Putin and other Russians who think like him.

Putin apologists try to change the subject to gay rights and transsexualism, but the Finns and Swedes, whose lives are at risk, aren’t buying that argument.


29 posted on 03/09/2024 12:55:17 PM PST by devere
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To: packagingguy
You have to wonder why the French President, among others, is talking about intervention in the Russian-Ukrainian War. There would be no talk of intervention unless NATO is concerned that Ukraine will lose at some point. After two years, the war has settled into a small scale version of World War I style trench warfare. But if Russia is wearing down Ukraine to the point that it could collapse, as Germany collapsed in the fall of 1918, NATO may believe intervention is necessary to prevent Ukraine as well as possibly Moldova to fall under Russian influence and control.

Then we need to ask what NATO's strategy is. Surely they are not as foolish as to think that they would succeed where Charles XII, Napoleon, and Hitler failed. It is possible that as in the Crimean War, when France, the Ottoman Empire, Britain, and Sardinia (the core of modern Italy) united to stop Russian expansion, the NATO powers believe that a limited war can be successfully waged against Russia. On paper, it would appear to be a mismatch. All of Europe, except for Austria, Switzerland, Ireland, and Serbia, and the two North American nations are faced against Russia, which only has Belarus as an ally.

Even if both sides refrain from using nuclear weapons, I must wonder if the imbalance is as much of a slam dunk as it appears on paper. It is possible that Russia is pulling its punches in Ukraine and would go all out against a NATO attack. The United States is above all the world's greatest naval power. But as the Ukrainians and the Houthis have shown, warships are more vulnerable than at any time since Roman Empire days. It is also possible that China and North Korea would use American preoccupation in Eastern Europe to make mischief in the Far East. Turkey may switch sides in order to expand its Near East position in conjunction with Iran to dominate the area and eliminate Israel.

31 posted on 03/09/2024 1:21:08 PM PST by Wallace T. ( )
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