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1 posted on 04/25/2024 5:12:24 AM PDT by CFW
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2 posted on 04/25/2024 5:13:07 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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Hopefully Trump’s lawyers make the case that if he does not have immunity, neither do past or current presidents. And he should announce that they will be arrested in his next term if he does not.


3 posted on 04/25/2024 5:16:17 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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I think Trump will win this one because the DOJ gave Bill Clinton Full immunity against anything that happened while he was in office. And Nixon’s Pardon...did the same thing.


4 posted on 04/25/2024 5:26:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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The thing is, Trump never used his executive power to prevent Biden from being certified and sworn in. He made his feelings known to Pence about how he thought Pence should handle the January 6th proceedings. But he never prevented Pence from ruling as he saw fit on that day. So basically all Trump did was express his opinion as president, which is his right. So it seems to me that presidential immunity isn’t even the issue, since no specific presidential power was ever used by Trump to prevent Biden from taking office.

Now, suppose that Trump had taken some executive action, such as declaring a national emergency and preventing Congress from convening until the outcome of a tribunal. Would he be entitled to presidential immunity if he had done that? Only, IMO, if it can be shown that he knew the election was fair but sought to prevent its outcome anyway. Otherwise, he would be acting within his legitimate powers as CIC and should receive presidential immunity.


7 posted on 04/25/2024 5:37:58 AM PDT by mbrfl
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Its not so much immunity as it is arguing that the president can only be impeached by the House and tried by the Senate for his official acts as president - as set forth in the US Constitution. So he’s not “immune”. There is a mechanism to try any president.

The alternative is that any one of America’s approximately 30,000 DA’s including highly partisan ones in highly partisan areas can charge a president. Given the highly partisan districts some DA’s might come from, this is a free license for any district to hold an elected president hostage. ie “enact this policy we don’t like, and we will charge you with a crime and you’ll get convicted by a jury here”.

We simply can’t have that if we are to have a functioning political system.

And then there is the fact that Trump was already impeached by the house and acquitted by the Senate for the Jan 6 mostly peaceful protest so charging him with it in a criminal trial would be double jeopardy which violates the 5th amendment.


10 posted on 04/25/2024 5:43:20 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Like Hillary didn't have implied immunity from her multiple ADMITTED crimes. And the left will stand by her.
13 posted on 04/25/2024 5:50:38 AM PDT by fwdude ( )
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It ought to be that Presidents, and Past Presidents, are immune from criminal charges for things they did or said in office as part of their “official duties”, unless first impeached and convicted by the Senate for the same charges. Or at least something close to that (there are a few limits to the Congressional immunity provided by the debate clause, mostly things limiting it to immunity for actions, speech that are part of their official duties. If trying to charge the President for something under the loophole that it wasn’t part of his official duties that should require a high level of proof that it wasn’t an official action.


19 posted on 04/25/2024 6:42:39 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo opsp)
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To: CFW; Jane Long; Lakeside Granny
"Bid for Immunity." is a dastardly caption.

The President of the United States, Donald Trump, has had his civil rights violated beginning with "Operation Crossfire Hurricane," predicated by totaly fictitious narratives from the Democrat Party, and in all subsequent bogus proceedings.

And now he is seeking immunity from bogus "criminal activity" according to this caption. Utter tripe.

What bullshit.

There is no underlying criminal activity by Trump anywhere.

Thats the point of him seeking immunity from these bogus lawfare charges, and from the weaponization of the various maladministration systems of justice involved at the hands of Joe Biden, dictator of the 4th Reich.

Trump is the quintessetial black man, now reviled, discriminated against and violated simply because he is electable by the People.Black folks from all over America are switching from Democrats to Trump, who has become a whipped slave to fascist Dem overseers. Watch the leftist justice system try and prevent him now from campaigning in New York, where people will vote for him and change the whole city from blue to red.

If the Supreme Court does not grant absolute immunity, we no longer are a free nation. We will have descended into fascism.And the People will NOT tolerate that.The court today will decide whether there will be order or civil unrest and violence in our future. Secondly, the government and is fascist pogies have arrayed themselves against G-D and Israel. And that threatens to drag down our whole nation as a massive collective of Sodomites, killers of babies, and life killing communist dictatorship. We might as well have succumbed to the 3rd Reich back in 1941.At least the painful part of submission would now be past us as we as a free people whimper into oblivion?

SCOTUS had better get it right. CLEARLY RIGHT.NO AMBIGUITY.

Or else.

We have one paladin for the People, and he must be preserved at all costs, even at the cost our own treasure, our own homes and our own now falsified liberties.

G_d bless President Trump,keep him safe and empower his fight for all of US.



23 posted on 04/25/2024 7:20:50 AM PDT by Candor7 (Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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As I listen, beyond the obvious DEI reasoning, I cannot understand how Ketanji has the experience or depth to have ever been allowed to sit on the Supreme Court. I have never seen a “Justice” more unqualified for the position.


28 posted on 04/25/2024 9:37:48 AM PDT by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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