Posted on 04/25/2024 11:21:17 AM PDT by Red Badger
If you analyze the following undeniable facts and attempt to notice patterns and think critically, you will understand the truth...
Israel wants to control ALL of the territory from the river to the sea.
Over the past 15 years, the culture and accepted norms of the United States have changed drastically in the direction of accepting foreign immigrants. Now that the Demographics have completely shifted (as seen with the college riots), that sentiment is fully engrained.
Egypt WILL NOT accept the Gazan’s into their territory.
Israel would not allow 10’s or 100’s of Gazans to transit across their territory and even if they did...Syria, Lebanon and Jordan would not allow any Gazans in.
There are dozens of different strategies for getting supplies into Gaza in a controlled way other than building this pier.
The only theoretically possible way to get 10’s or 100’s of thousands of Gazans OUT of Gaza would be using a pier just like this and commercial or military vessels to transport them to another accepting country.
Nikki Haley and a number of Democrats have already advocated bringing the Gazans here.
Please open your eyes.
They will not be forcibly removed is my point. I agree with you, none of the neighboring countries will invite them in, and nobody would look kindly if Israel tried to push them into Egypt. However, if they were given an option to move to Europe or to the USA, then I would say that yes 100,000s of them absolutely will take that offer.
Israel is a democracy and the public sentiment there is subject to change with times and their internal demographic and social attitudes. Israel has fought many wars. When Carter got Sadat to negotiate peace with Israel, Israelis overwhelmingly wanted that deal and had at the time very high hopes of increased trade and technological joint ventures. Israel irrigation companies wanted to go in and help irrigate the Sinai. Egypt just wanted to stop fighting and deal with their internal issues, and do very little else with Israel. So, a cold peace. The Muslim Brotherhood assassinated Sadat for making that deal. But it still hold. They coordinate when they have to, they have diplomatic relations, but very little cooperation on anything other than security issues.
Same thing happened with Oslo. Arafat said he was “reformed” and wanted to lead the Palestinians to peace and prosperity in Gaza and the West Bank. The Israeli public was largely in favor of the “land for peace” deal and were willing to accept Arafat - their terrorist foe for decades - as a partner the negotiations. Israel had successive prime ministers who worked inside that paradigm (though yes, one ultra-right fanatic assassinated Rabin (one of the founding fathers of Israel) that didn’t stop the next two Prime Ministers from persuing the deal). Arafat scuttled it and launched the intifada, and it doesn’t take too many bus, cafe, discotech suicide bombers to turn the Israeli electorate off the idea of a “peace deal”. So Sharon was elected and he was pretty hard right, but even he made a “land for our own peace of mind” deal - he just pulled all Israelis out of Gaza without any deal with the Palestinians. At the time it made sense, but over the years they saw Gaza turn more radical and Israel abdicated their security role over the territory (which they technically “occupy”) and Hamas took over and turned it into a mini terror state. Israel has to take responsibility now for not being more proactive over the last 15 years in Gaza.
But all this isn’t to say that, who knows, maybe some day in the future the Israeli electorate would come to accept a two or three state solution IF the conditions were right. I do not see that happening in 10 years or maybe not 20 years and a lot else could change by then.
But I think one of the other larger issues that nobody ever mentions is that the Palestinians still hold this dream not so much of liberating what is now Israel, but of “returning” the “refugees”. But the problem with that is that Israel will absolutely not resettle them inside Israel, there is no room in Gaza, and the residents of the West Bank don’t want them either. So you have maybe 1 million living in Lebanon and Jordan and other places... they are non-citizens in Lebanon. Those in Jordan probably won’t want to leave Jordan as they are citizens there and live as well as any Jordanian. But the Palestinians in Lebanon are 2nd class citizens with no rights, not even allowed higher education and no right to a government job or government contract. They are left there to languish, with little education and little opportunity. That issue has to be resolved and imho, 75 years have passed, pressure should be brought onto Lebanon to give them full citizenship and equal rights as Lebanese citizens. It is my understanding that Trump and Kushner tried to offer $50 billion in developmental aid, but failed to get much traction on that. But they did get the Abraham accords. So it wasn’t entirely futile.
Now maybe the seaport is to be used to transport people. I am of the George Carlin school, I don’t believe anything the government tells me. But on this seaport, I think it really was an attempt to mollify the teeming masses. They coordinated with Cyprus and Israel and aid agencies to get food in. Personally I think the trick was to deliver the aid to the north and the coast as a lure to get the civilians out of Rafah so Israel could go in and clear out the remainder of the Hamas battalions. Whether in time it would turn into a harbor to shuttle people out, that could come to pass. You obviously think so. I don’t say no, I just don’t think that was the initial plan... and I don’t think the European or American electorate would look too kindly on the idea of 100,000’s MORE migrants who are at least somewhat associated with terrorist groups.
I hope they DIDN’T MISS!
HIAS has been driving and coordinating the invasions of the US and Europe.
They have been doing so for a reason.
I believe the Abraham accords and the pallets of cash to Iran were preconditions of the Arabs not attacking (with any meaningful strength) after Israel completes their plan.
A wounded, sick, or outright rabid animal will attack you when you try to help it. In most cases, putting it down is the most humane thing to do...
This applies equally to the likes of Hamas and terrorist supporting Nation-States.
HIAS like so many once important groups have probably been infiltrated and overwhelmed by ideologues with ideas far from their original missions. This would include the ADL, the SPLC, the ACLU and others. They are now part of the left establishment.
Again not saying you are wrong, I have no way to know… but my personal belief is that the pallets of cash to Iran didn’t stay in Iran but was flown in 1000s of diplomatic pouches to Zurich and Qatar etc. There was absolutely no reason to pay in cash, and even more egregious why were Americans taxpayers paying some of it in Euro notes? Makes no sense at all. If it were for legitimate Iranian governmental operating purposes banking credits would have worked just fine. The open question is what, and who, that cash bought - and how much and to whom was any amount kicked back.
>>>This applies equally to the likes of Hamas and terrorist supporting Nation-States.<<<...and UN Officials................
“A wounded, sick, or outright rabid animal will attack you when you try to help it. In most cases, putting it down is the most humane thing to do...
This applies equally to the likes of Hamas and terrorist supporting Nation-States.”
Especially when the ‘rabid animal’ is out to kill you... intentionally.
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