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'Americans just work harder' than Europeans, said the CEO of Norway's $1.6 trillion oil fund
Business Insider ^ | 25th April 2024 | Matthew Loh

Posted on 04/26/2024 5:35:46 AM PDT by Cronos

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To: xoxox
"There’s a bit more to it than that for a lot of people."

That is the problem with statistics, it only gives part of the picture. I was unable to give overtime without going through a multi day process, but many times we had a problem pop-up. All of those on salary worked some extremely long hours to meet mission, but I did not track their hours, so if the work load was light and they missed a morning, why should I care.

My hourly workers got comp time (unofficial but common knowledge), and they would work an extra 30 minutes or so, knowing that if they needed to leave early for an event it was easy to get permission- "a nod of a head." And most times when a problem popped up, 30 minutes or work after work today saved an hour the next day.

Don't get me wrong, we had an ever increasing workload where employee increases lagged behind workload, but we all knew that if you needed time off, it would be given. Our employee turnover was extremely low, which made life much easier. However, if you looked at the official labor logs, we all worked pretty much 40 hours per week minus standard time off rules.

21 posted on 04/26/2024 8:19:31 AM PDT by fini
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To: Cronos

Having lived and worked in Germany....

It does not pay to work hard in Europe. The taxes are so high and the welfare is so generous it doesn’t pay to work harder than the minimum needed to pay a few bills.


22 posted on 04/26/2024 8:28:21 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Cronos

The private sector, anyway.


23 posted on 04/26/2024 8:29:03 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Cronos
If you work harder in Europe to earn more, you are subject to punitive tax rates, so many Europeans prefer to be compensated by PTO.

If you own your own business, I'm not sure if perks provided by the business, like housing or a car, are considered taxable income. So small and medium sized family firms can produce a much higher effective income for their owners. In Poland, for example, I think owner-operated businesses have much lower tax and social security type contributions.

Investors in the US do have to worry about out of control executives who run their companies like a cash-extraction colonial operation, focused solely on extracting max pay, bonuses and stock option pay-offs over the short term by stiffing R&D, capital investment, and even sharing core tech with competitors simply to grab more cash. See Boeing, GE, etc.

24 posted on 04/26/2024 8:30:22 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: jimpick

I’m sorry to hear this and it makes me absolutely sick how this has been going on for decades destroying people like you just trying to make a living.

The neoCONs don’t care about hard working Americans like you - they only care about ‘muh corporations’ and if it’s good for ‘muh corporation’ to get cheap labor, then that’s all they care about.


25 posted on 04/26/2024 9:20:13 AM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: woodbutcher1963

Closets are very American.

Im certainly no expert on all the old tax laws of every European nation but I do know that many places had laws based on square area and or number of rooms which would include closets.

Maybe you could buy a home with more cells than needed and add enough armoires to one cell to create a walk in closet. Add mirrors/dressing tables as suits Mrsbutcher.

Looking more toward Northern Europe and Asia might help. In Northern Europe they dont just use armoires as wardrobes. They have expanded the idea into things like the schrank/klaedeskab that are designed for every room. Wardrobe/bookcase/portable bar/entertainment center/china hutch/display case/etc all in one type of furniture, obviously preferrably not at the same time. Each is designed a little bit different and suitable for their role and when you find one you like your closet for that room moves with you. Just close the door, chuck it in the wagon, and scoot. Im not saying Mrs should necessarily redo her entire decorating aesthetic necessarily but find correct pieces that mimic the furniture from elsewhere. A Japanese todana (like the old apothecary style) make nice end tables/coffee tables etc for rooms where a larger towering piece wont work.

Its nicer for you that way too. When you have to move between places or even just rooms, things are already all encased together. Repairs/remodeling? Snip, snap, slide, the room is now empty and everything is protected, hidden from contractors, and ready to go back when youre done.

Small rooms equals small costs for resources. Whether youre cutting the wood or using your retirement savings its far more economical to have small rooms. Saving time and money just equals more time and money whether its cannolis or catamarans. Open concept is about to bite a lot of Americans right in the ass.


26 posted on 04/26/2024 10:21:47 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hivemind liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives select servants.)
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The other interesting Italian housing concept was the cucina(kitchen) was in the basement or first floor.
Where the cooking was done over a fireplace.
The cooking was also done down on the first floor because that way it would not heat up the rest of the house.

They also do not have a living room with a sofa and TV in most older houses. They had a room with a big table where all the family would get together to manga manga.

The only houses that are made to be more Americanized are up in northern Italy or Tuscany. There have been a lot of Tuscan farmhouses that have been renovated over the years by wealthy Americans/Brits and others. Even in those it is rae to find a house with a Master bedroom and Master bath attached.


27 posted on 04/26/2024 10:44:54 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: imabadboy99

Dont feel sorry for me. I am doing fine because I offer high quality. I am almost always in demand. I loose a lot of work because I am to busy.

I feel sorry for the younger generations that must establish themselves in this mess. It is much harder to raise yourself up when you are competing against your own government and the criminals they allow to break the law.

It is now much harder for the youth to get established. The cost of everything is going up except the wages of the lower skilled labor.

It is not just in construction but across the board. No one wants to roof at a cheap hourly rate. So they move to other easier jobs that pay the same low wages and compete with the people in those jobs. That forces the wages there to be lower since more people are competing for those low skilled jobs.

It just makes it harder for people to raise themselves up when our government stacks the deck against the new citizen workers.


28 posted on 04/26/2024 12:17:23 PM PDT by jimpick
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