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White House: We’re Not Trying to Harm Coal, We’re Trying to ‘Speed Up’ to Economy that Has ‘Less Pollution’
Breitbart ^ | 04/26/2024 | IAN HANCHETT

Posted on 04/26/2024 6:39:15 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: Sirius Lee

POST OF THE DAY


21 posted on 04/26/2024 7:24:37 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Omnivore-Dan

“Reliable” — sure. My solar cells generate a lot of power in the full moon.


22 posted on 04/26/2024 7:30:16 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward SnowdenA)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

‘Zaidi answered, “No, the real goal here is to make sure that we take pollution out of the skies so folks can breathe easier, so that we can tackle the climate crisis.”’

Anytime one of these swamp creatures says “folks,” you can be sure that evil is afoot.


23 posted on 04/26/2024 7:38:09 AM PDT by cdcdawg (The "rainbow flag" is the symbol of Western neo-imperialism. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

WTH does that even mean??


White House: We’re Not Trying to Harm Coal, We’re Trying to ‘Speed Up’ to Economy that Has ‘Less Pollution’, with one trillion worth of new regulation which should safely bring us back to 1932


24 posted on 04/26/2024 7:39:14 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Translation: We don’t have to try to harm coal specifically. Our program will wipe out coal and all its related jobs without trying.


25 posted on 04/26/2024 7:46:09 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If the leftists were serious about eliminating “greenhouse gases” they would be pushing for more nuclear power which is clean and efficient. Instead they push for unreliable windmills and solar farms that can never begin to meet our energy needs.


26 posted on 04/26/2024 7:48:02 AM PDT by The Great RJ ( )
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To: Sacajaweau
Some key stats from that site you linked.
Coal plants in operations as of July 2023:

During the first six months of 2023, China issued permits for the construction of approximately 50 new coal-fired power plants. That is an average of TWO PER WEEK.

China has 300 coal-fired plants under construction, permitted, or awaiting permitting. If all 300 plants are constructed, China’s inventory of coal-fired power plants will increase by more than 25%. Currently, China has six times more coal-fired power plants under construction than the rest of the World combined.

China pursues cheap, reliable, and abundant energy. We are chasing illogical fantasies of wind and solar that cannot work without utility-scale energy storage and there IS NO SUCH ENERGY STORAGE technology. Even if there were, you have to overbuild by four or five times because of the poor capacity factor of wind and solar.

You can put coal plants anywhere you have coal transportation rail lines, cooling water, and transmission line access -- in other words, almost anywhere. But you can only site wind and solar at appropriate locations and the best wind sites are already gone and solar only works at low latitudes.

27 posted on 04/26/2024 7:50:59 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward SnowdenA)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
WTH does that even mean??

Thats a heck of a word salad.

28 posted on 04/26/2024 8:01:25 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Natural gas is the way to go + hydro.


29 posted on 04/26/2024 8:11:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ChicagoConservative27

They are not trying to harm coal, they are trying to kill Coal!


30 posted on 04/26/2024 8:15:16 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

White eyes speak with forked tongue.


31 posted on 04/26/2024 8:21:50 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
It means they are not trying to harm coal (outside the US)

https://climatesmartventures.com/asia-et-imperative/

Coal is a major driver of global warming that must be addressed, particularly in Asia. In 2022, worldwide coal demand reached a record high amidst a global energy crisis, and the International Energy Agency (IEA) has predicted that 2023 will yet again beat the prior year’s record.[3] While coal demand has fallen in the US, EU, and other advanced economies, demand continues to rise in Asia, which accounts for 80% of worldwide coal use.[4] China, India, Indonesia, Vietnam, and the Philippines alone account for over 70% of global coal demand, offsetting decreases at the global level.[5] Coal has been the primary fuel for electricity generation in Asia, and electricity demand in the region continues to grow due to rapid industrialization and urbanization, population growth, and rising standards of living. See Figure 1. Eighty-four percent of the global electricity demand increase from 2015 to 2022 is attributed to Asia, according to data from Ember.[6] Moreover, a number of coal plants are still “young” or are being newly built in the region, and could have operational lifespans lasting as late as 2060.

If I ever heard about the International Development Finance Corporation I didn't give it much mind but their active projects page is telling.

After seeing their projects page I did wonder where IDF sprang from and from their search engine and what to my wondering eyes did appear?...

https://www.dfc.gov/search?keywords=Rockefeller !

Not really a surprise; I was already aware of this connection:

https://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/profile/rajiv-shah/ from which you will read:

In 2009, he was appointed USAID Administrator by President Obama and unanimously confirmed by the U.S. Senate.

Dr. Shah reshaped the $20 billion agency’s operations in more than 70 countries around the world by elevating the role of innovation, creating high-impact public-private partnerships, and focusing U.S. investments to deliver stronger results.

Shah secured bipartisan support that included the passage of two significant laws – the Global Food Security Act and the Electrify Africa Act. He led the U.S. response to the Haiti earthquake and the West African Ebola pandemic, served on the National Security Council, and elevated the role of development as part of our nation’s foreign policy. Prior to his appointment at USAID, Shah served as Chief Scientist and Undersecretary for Research, Education, and Economics at the United States Department of Agriculture where he created the National Institute for Food and Agriculture.

Nothing like prepping your future success with American taxpayer money. I call it the democrat/globalist coalition's under the radar path to enslavement. You might call it Deep State politics.

32 posted on 04/26/2024 8:23:56 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman (The Gates of hell shall not prevail against you)
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To: Sacajaweau

Plus lots of nuclear power.

We took a three day trip to Walla Walla, WA a month ago. On our drive through the beautiful Palouse region of Western Idaho and Eastern Oregon, I was appalled at all the windmills despoiling the once-beautiful landscape. You used to have endless rolling hills to the horizon covered in the emerald color winter wheat. Now you see nothing but those horrid monstrosities.

The greeniacs went nuts 40 years ago for a few offshore oil platforms around Santa Barbara because they ruined the ocean views. But they are perfectly happy ruining all the views in America The Beautiful (or FORMERLY Beautiful).


33 posted on 04/26/2024 8:49:25 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward SnowdenA)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
What does it mean? Let's ask Chief Ten Bears:

"It is sad that governments are chiefed by the double-tongues."

I do think it's interesting, though, that they're reverting to the old pattern of election year doubletalk. In 2020, Biden was pretty blunt about "ending" fossil fuels.

34 posted on 04/26/2024 8:49:46 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
The Manchurian President is destroying our coal fueled power plants in an effort to lower prices coal for China

China permitted more coal power plants last year than any time in the last seven years, according to a new report released this week. It's the equivalent of about two new coal power plants per week. The report by energy data organizations Global Energy Monitor and the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air finds the country quadrupled the amount of new coal power approvals in 2022 compared to 2021.

35 posted on 04/26/2024 8:55:10 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater & Thomas Sowell in 2024)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Tell that to Chi-Coms as they build MORE coal plants— and continue to POLLUTE like all Hell.

No- you are trying put the US in the craphole for good. We have more coal than the rest of the world. Let us use it- it is OURS. And get back our Uranium stocks to build more nuclear plants as well. Get Rosatom to cough up what Hilary and Billy Boy allowed them to essentially TAKE through a Canadian mining pal of theirs. OUR uranium!


36 posted on 04/26/2024 9:06:50 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: libertylover

Stack scrubbers have made burning coal a very clean process.


37 posted on 04/26/2024 9:24:34 AM PDT by curious7
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To: Omnivore-Dan

Scrubbers are not going to clean coal stack gasses to the level of what a gas turbine puts out with out using scrubbers. Scrubbers are also $100 million or more for a typical sized coal plant. It’s cheaper to switch your fuel.

There is no safe limits of lead or mercury zero is always better than even ppm levels. If you have the technology to make power without those real pollutants then the EPA has a charter from Congress to do so. The technology exists today you can switch to clean natural gas with zero PM2.5 , zero mercury, and near zero NOx. Or you can use very expensive scrubbers to try to get close to ppm levels mercury cannot be scrubbed from flue gas to zero it’s in vapor form with no means of absorption even on active charcoal to zero. The cleanest way is to use gasification plant tech turn the coal to syngas then use a six stage plus gas clean up train to get the preburner gas as clean as possible then burn that in low NOx burners so atmospheric nitrogen doesn’t just form more NOx. Gasification plant tech is hundreds of millions of dollars as well. Coal is never going to be allowed to be burnt directly to the sky ever again in the USA the days of unfiltered coal ash gasses going up a stack are over and most are happy about that. Especially those whose watersheds were on the receiving end of that ash fall for years from unfiltered stack emissions. You can burn coal but you have to hit ppm level of clean , natural gas gets there with ease or you add building sized scrubbers and get close but not equal for a while the EPA will allow you to get close but at some point everyone is held to the same standard. Gas gets there, nuclear is the cleanest of all its only atmospheric output is trace amounts of noble gasses that are instantly diluted to ppt levels in the atmosphere none of which are biologically active. I would rather live next door to a 4 gigawatt four reactor pad plant than a equal sized coal or gas plant any day of the week. Pay me yearly and you can store dry cask spent fuel on gravel pads behind the house on the acreage the goats won’t care about the inert concrete silos and nor would I. You could sleep next to one of the silos and be fine. In fact the dose standing next to one touching it is less on an hour for hour basis than flying across the Atlantic. At 10 meters distance sunlight has more rads so yeah for $$$$$ per month store all you want on my back 40.


38 posted on 04/26/2024 12:53:34 PM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: curious7

Stack scrubbers will never be as clean as natural gas and nuclear is even cleaner. Plus spent fuel is 100% contained and stored in a tiny area. Coal not only always puts some pollution into the sky even with $100 million in scrubbers you cannot get away with the ash it creates. Toxic ash that never decays as it’s chemically toxic for all eternity. Look at the image at the top of the page it’s factual. One storage cask stops the generation of a huge amount of coal ash. Every gram of that ash is toxic and also contains more radioactive released to the environment than nuclear power would release by a million times. Coal ash is just piled up and allowed to leach into the watershed when not if the coal ponds leak they all will leak eventually.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nuclear/comments/144mm6e/each_nuclear_waste_cask_can_prevent_4_billion_lbs/


39 posted on 04/26/2024 1:32:46 PM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: John S Mosby

Speaking of Canada we should ask the Canadians very nicely for their CANDU tech it’s the cheapest on earth thst can put 1.8 cents per kWh to the plant edge. Ask the Koreans to build the plant they do it in under 5 years and for $2800 per kW why? No unions ,no lawfare and they have a Asian work ethic. That’s one fifth what the reactor in Georgia took and three times shorter in years.

CANDU require no special enrichment plants they use raw natural uranium as fuel at half the cost of PWR fuel per kWh. The USA didn’t go that way because we wanted bombs not power plants and enrichment program is for bombs the power was just to appease the dogooders. Atoms for peace none sense.

Bonus is CANDU and burn spent pwr fuel directly with a little repacking of the fuel rods. Again ask the Koreans they have done this with their pwr fuel to CANDU. This doubles the energy per fuel rod which halves the price per kWh and halves the spent fuel grams per kWh actually micrograms per kWh.

Always remember kiddies you lifetime energy consumption not just electricity but ALL energy including transportation, food production / harvesting use could fit as spent fuel in a 12oz coke can, half that volume if you double use the fuel and 5% of that volume if you reprocessed the spent fuel like France and Russia does.

The Japanese have already made small amounts of raw uranium from seawater at $300lb that’s double the current mined price but given how low fuel costs in a CANDU reactor is less than 10% of the LCOE total at the plant gate you could double the cost of raw uranium and only increase the total cost by 5% or so still cheaper than any other form of energy in a btu for btu basis. Seawater uranium if scaled up is truly renewable energy there is billions of tonnes in the oceans and more gets washed in every year from rivers more than humans could ever extract from the bulk ocean water on a yearly basis at that.


40 posted on 04/26/2024 2:14:41 PM PDT by GenXPolymath
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