Note the underlined, directly from U.S. code.
The point is, yes, illegals can vote by law.
“The point is, yes, illegals can vote by law”
only if “each natural parent of the alien ... is or was a citizen”
P
Hold it.
This does not say aliens can vote. It says aliens CANNOT vote except under stringent conditions, including being the natural or adopted child of TWO citizen-parents, AND being a permanent US resident for at least two years prior to reaching voting age, AND having reason to believe they are a citizen. E.g., merely claiming you believe you are a citizen is not having, or demonstrating you have, reason to believe you are one. Those are a lot of conditions to be met, in addition to having the state legal framework in place allowing for such a vote in the first place.
I realize the commies will twist this, but the law explcitly forbids aliens from voting for federal office with a narrow exception, not a broad one. So, just like all the other laws broken by the uniparty state, it would not matter if these narrow exception conditions were excluded, they would still ignore the law anyway. Remember, they are thieves and cheats. They are gangsters and crooks. By definition they do not eaven read the law. They simply claim to be in possession of it at every turn and to be able to use it to shut down decent, principled, honest, law abiding American patriots.
But we love to argue amongst ourselves about the finer points of the law when they are completely bypassing it and are down the road wreaking havoc while we bicker.
What’s written is moot.
We are no longer a republic.
Until the republic is restored, the law is whatever Deep State says it is.
None of the recent newly arrived millions could reasonably think they were citizens, but the democrats in the battleground states would pretend that they themselves believe they are citizens.
Who wants to go die for their country now?
I was thinking that this would require two distinct ballots. one for aliens that does not included fed offices with just the locals and one with everything.
As I read this provision, it doesn’t say that aliens may vote for federal office holders. It merely provides the conditions under which aliens may vote for state office holders in “elections” where federal offices are also being voted. The enactors most certainly did intend to allow illegals or resident aliens to vote in federal elections.
Yes indeed...
There are 60-million of the jubilant migrant-invader vermin out there cheering at this news...
As are the communists in the WH and the RINO establishment...
The Biden-Obama cabal has a permanent lock on 2024 and all future elections...
Someone in the House majority needs to write and have passed a bill early on in the next Congress in 2025 reaffirming these relevant laws and adding that no person entering the US illegally shall ever be granted a path to citizenship.
"18 U.S. Code § 611 - Voting by aliens"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
As with any law made by the unconstitutionally big, post-17th Amendment ratification federal government, patriots first need to go upstream to the Constitution to find a clause that reasonably justifies the law. And if there is no clause, then patriots have a constitutional duty (imo) to replace the entire House and whatever senators are up for reelection in the next election, November 2024 a great time to start doing so.
“3. The Constitution was written to be understood by the voters [emphasis added]; its words and phrases were used in their normal and ordinary as distinguished from technical meaning; where the intention is clear, there is no room for construction [spin] and no excuse for interpolation or addition.” —United States v. Sprague, 1931.
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Patriots desperately need to fire post-16th Amendment (16A) ratification career celebrity lawmakers who chase the tsunami of unconstitutional federal taxes fostered by the abuse of that clause, taxes that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.
"16th Amendment : The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived [emphasis added], without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
“If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous, (as for instance, for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles [emphases added].” — Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2 (1833).
From the congressional record:
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
Regarding voting by aliens, note that women couldn't vote in states that prohibited women from voting until after the 19th Amendment (19A) was ratified.
"19th Amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation."
And for states that think that they can simply allow illegals to vote like they let women vote before 19A, consider this. The congressional record shows that post-Civil War lawmakers had expressed concern that states that allow non-citizens to vote effectively nullify the Constitution's "Uniform Rule of Naturalization Clause."
"Article I, Section 8, Clause 4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization [emphasis added], and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;"
" If the States can admit to the elective franchise those who are not citizens, thereby neutralizing the votes of citizens, not only the Federal power of naturalization becomes a nullity, but" * * * * "a minority of citizens by the aid of aliens may control the government of the States, and through the States the government of the Union [emphasis added]." —Appendix to the Congressional Globe, 1868. (See near middle of 1st column.)
" Whatever difference there may be as to what other rights appertain to a citizen, all must agree that he has the right to petition and also to claim the Protection of the Government. These belong to him as a member the body politic, and the possession of them is what separates citizens of the lowest condition from aliens and slaves. To suppose that a State can make an alien a citizen or confer on him the right of voting would involve the absurdity of giving him the direct and immediate control of the action of the General Government, from which he can claim no protection and to which he has no right to present a petition [emphasis added]." —Appendix to the Congressional Globe, 1868. (See bottom half of 1st column.)
So OBiden must first lead Congress to successfully propose an illegal aliens voting rights amendment to the Constitution before illegals can vote to keep desperate elite Democratic and RINOs in power imo, such an amendment effectively repealing the relevant part of the Uniform Rule of Naturalization Clause. But it isn't going to happen imo.
Who will actually enforce the law? On top of that, each case will have to be tracked down individually.
Unfortunately, the law in question contains wiggle room that democrats will attempt to use to grant illegals the right to vote. Would the Supreme Court allow illegals to vote under ‘certain’ conditions? Ya never know.
-PJ
Sadly, nothing is going to happen now to change this.
