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Biden’s polling denial: Why he doesn't believe he's behind
Axios via MSN ^ | 14 May 24 | Hans Nichols

Posted on 05/14/2024 1:52:24 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

President Biden doesn't believe his bad poll numbers, and neither do many of his closest advisers, according to people familiar with the matter.

Why it matters: The dismissiveness of the poor polling is sincere, not public spin, according to Democrats who have spoken privately with the president and his team.

That bedrock belief has informed Biden's largely steady-as-she-goes campaign — even as many Democrats outside the White House are agitating for the campaign to change direction, given that Biden is polling well behind where he was four years ago.

The public polling simply doesn't reflect the president's support, they say.

Driving the news: In public and private, Biden has been telling anyone who will listen that he's gaining ground — and is probably up — on Donald Trump in their rematch from 2020. "While the press doesn't write about it, the momentum is clearly in our favor, with the polls moving towards us and away from Trump," Biden told donors in Medina, Wash., on Saturday. A few days earlier, confronted with some of his bad poll numbers in a rare interview with CNN, Biden offered a more sweeping indictment of polling methodology.

"The polling data has been wrong all along. How many — you guys do a poll at CNN. How many folks you have to call to get one response?" Zoom in: The latest polling in the six battleground states likely to decide the presidential race — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — doesn't paint a rosy picture for Biden.

A new New York Times/Sienna survey, which sampled more than 4,000 people across the swing states, had Trump winning five of them among registered voters.

A Bloomberg News poll last month similarly found Biden trailing Trump in six of seven swing states (they also polled North Carolina).

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KEYWORDS: 2024; basement; biden; bunker; dementiajoe; demonicrats; elections; joe; loserjoe; trump; trump2024
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There is no way that the Biden team cannot see the low approval numbers, weak poll numbers and middle fingers.

I also do not believe they are in denial.

1 posted on 05/14/2024 1:52:24 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

Joe keeps telling lies like Bronco ‘Bama.

Keeps the stupid as true believers.

It also may indicate that he has great confidence in cheating. /oh, shiny side out

(that will send the Liberals into panic mode)


2 posted on 05/14/2024 2:00:25 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Let’s go Brandon.


3 posted on 05/14/2024 2:00:39 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Three odd things going on:

1. No one believes the economic numbers. Most believe it’s the worst period now, since 1929. The WH insiders believe the gov’t reports/numbers aren’t falsified.

Unemployment rate? It doesn’t take into account that around five-million young men (age 18 to 29) aren’t working.

2. You go into Chicago, Denver, and NYC...locals are blasting incoming migrants, cost burden upon the city, and the future.

WH insiders aren’t talking to metro people.

3. Finally, there’s lack of public ‘trust’ in the news media...from local news to newspapers....to the national sources like WaPo, CNN, NPR.

It’s something that hasn’t been seen much in US history, where you can’t dump a theme, message or brand...with ‘trust’ among the general public.

All of this in translating? You could flip Joe Biden out at the convention...bringing Newsom or Michelle Obama....keeping the same White House insiders/crew, and the message/brand would not improve.

Final note: the s**t hitting the fan? If Trump wins...the message about a week after the election is that a legal review will be done over all cabinet secretaries, VP Harris and Joe Biden in January...to bring charges as necessary. The corrupted economic numbers? Someone will end up in federal court. The CIA affairs? Someone will end up in court. The cocaine in the White House? Someone will end up in court.


4 posted on 05/14/2024 2:05:16 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Erik Latranyi

They are just trying to encourage their mindless supporters by lying to them.


5 posted on 05/14/2024 2:08:14 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Erik Latranyi
Brandon knows the fix is in - just as it was 4 years ago. He believes he is entitled to the Presidency - ordained by G*d, blah, blah, blah.

His delusion is extraordinarily dangerous. Men have historically done tremendous evil in the world believing they are righteous.
6 posted on 05/14/2024 2:12:01 AM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

They know the fix is in, again. 90 million votes, here we come.


7 posted on 05/14/2024 2:18:17 AM PDT by spincaster (t)
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To: Erik Latranyi
"Biden’s polling denial: Why he doesn't believe he's behind"

I'm anxiously awaiting the next bunker parody, Hitler finds out Biden is moving in with him.
8 posted on 05/14/2024 2:19:43 AM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: WashingtonSource

[They are just trying to encourage their mindless supporters by lying to them.]

Exactly


9 posted on 05/14/2024 2:24:51 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Biden even believes that he won the last election.


10 posted on 05/14/2024 2:31:59 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Erik Latranyi

polls mean little when you can sit in your basement and get 81 million votes. Does anyone see what’s coming, or is our side the one in denial? and how about this for an election strategy; out vote the theft. That’s right folks, the GOP strategy is to have so many people vote that they won’t be able to manufacture enough phony ballots. They have done next to nothing to ensure voter integrity, and instead suggest enough of us participate in a rigged election in hopes of outpacing the thieves. We are a banana republic, make no mistake about it.


11 posted on 05/14/2024 2:33:55 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Erik Latranyi

Because they know they lost last time too.

But cheated and are using fascist tactics to get away with it and handicap their opposition.

Why have they come down so hard on Rudy, John Eastman and Peter Navarro. Because they are legitimate, accomplished and respected their entire careers and they spoke out about the steal.


12 posted on 05/14/2024 2:38:19 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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CNN Data Reporter Calls Latest Swing State Poll an ‘Absolute Disaster’ for Biden

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/cnn-data-reporter-calls-latest-swing-state-poll-an-absolute-disaster-for-biden/


13 posted on 05/14/2024 2:39:36 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: pepsionice

As for your Final Note:

NOTHING will happen to Biden and his administration stooges. They will simply crawl back under the rocks from which they came.

However I can dream that some well intentioned Patriots will turn those rocks over and STOMP them like bugs.


14 posted on 05/14/2024 2:42:15 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Trump said the same thing in 2020, when he was behind in the polls by much bigger margins. It’s what historian John Keegan called “the mask of command”, aka never let them see you sweat. Defeatism in the inner circle always leaks out.

Donors are willing to give to a candidate with a chance of winning. They’re less inclined to donate to one without. If even the candidate doesn’t believe he can win, what are donors supposed to think? Defeatism is self-fulfilling, due to funding drying up and talented campaign staff bailing out, so you’ll never hear a losing candidate admit that things are not looking good. He needs the cash and the best people he can retain to have any chance of staying in the game.


15 posted on 05/14/2024 2:50:28 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: spincaster

ballots


16 posted on 05/14/2024 2:54:16 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: JonPreston

[polls mean little when you can sit in your basement and get 81 million votes.]


Polls are always meaningful. They predicted Biden’s narrow win. In 2020, Biden led by as much as 10% in the polls all through the election. In the weeks before, he averaged 8%. He won by 4%. In other words, the polls overestimated his victory margin by 4%.

Biden’s problem this polling cycle is that instead of leading by almost 10% all through, he is averaging a tie. Throw in a 4% bias in his favor, he is looking at a 4% loss in November. Note that Trump lost the popular vote by 2% to Hillary and still won on electoral votes.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/trump-vs-biden
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

Bottom line is that defeat in 2024 for Biden looks as inevitable as victory seemed in 2020.


17 posted on 05/14/2024 2:54:39 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Because election integrity is dead.


18 posted on 05/14/2024 2:57:39 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Erik Latranyi

Maybe it is because Dr. Jill and the insane rabidly anti-American leftists in his government who use him to push their ultra-left agendas keep telling him he is doing a great job?


19 posted on 05/14/2024 3:02:48 AM PDT by Iron Munro ( Islamophobia - a word created by fascists, used by cowards, to manipulate morons)
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Polls are always meaningful. They predicted Biden’s narrow win

The election was stolen. If you can't acknowledge that, please take your naive comments elsewhere.

20 posted on 05/14/2024 3:03:02 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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