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Whatever U.S. Elites Are Defending In Ukraine, It Isn’t Democracy
The Federalist ^ | MAY 16, 2024 | JOHN DANIEL DAVIDSON

Posted on 05/16/2024 8:52:03 AM PDT by Kazan

It’s getting harder and harder to pretend the war in Ukraine, now in its third year, is about “defending democracy,” as our political elites in Washington insist.

This is especially true when Secretary of State Antony Blinken shows up in Ukraine to deliver billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to fund the war, proclaims that Ukraine’s scheduled presidential elections this spring are canceled until “conditions allow” (Ukraine has not held elections since 2019), and then jaunts off to a popular Kyiv nightclub to play a boomerish cover of Neil Young’s “Rockin’ in the Free World.”

That actually happened this week.

And it happened just days after Russia unleashed an armored ground offensive in Ukraine’s northeast near the country’s second-largest city, Kharkiv.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky continued pushing the same quixotic message he’s been repeating for years now: Ukraine is in dire need of even more Western aid, without which the war effort will collapse, but also Ukraine is capable of “winning” this war — that is, expelling all Russian forces from Ukrainian territory.

At this point, no one really believes that. Nor does anyone really believe — if they ever did — that Ukraine, one of the most corrupt countries in the world before the war began, is a bastion of democracy. Indeed, asked about presidential elections in Ukraine, which were scheduled for this spring but have been delayed indefinitely, Blinken said bluntly that there will be no elections until “all Ukrainians” can vote.

That means no elections even if a ceasefire or peace plan is in place, so long as Russia controls any Ukrainian territory. In other words, it’s a recipe for the permanent suspension of elections in Ukraine, since any ceasefire or negotiated peace process will inevitably see Russia in control of at least some Ukrainian territory.

There’s also a profound dishonesty at work here on the part of the Biden administration and the Zelensky government. For many years, Ukrainian elections pitted the pro-Russian eastern parts of the country against the European-leaning western parts, with the latter constantly accusing Moscow of meddling in the country’s elections to keep Ukraine in Russia’s orbit. Glance at a map of Ukraine’s election results from 2004 or 2010, and it’s easy to see the geographical-political divide in the country.

The Russian invasion has now taken many of those voters in the eastern parts of Ukraine out of the electoral equation. So why would Ukraine’s current pro-Western leadership want to cancel elections until these pro-Russian areas are able to vote?

At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, allow me to suggest that maybe the insistence on “all Ukrainians” being able to vote is a cynical ploy to prevent elections from taking place in the near future. Maybe Zelensky knows that Ukrainians, if given the chance, would vote his regime out of office and pursue peace negotiations with Moscow that Zelensky’s Western sponsors won’t allow.

Given what we know about Western elites’ view of “democracy,” it isn’t that far-fetched. After all, when they talk about “protecting democracy” here in the U.S., they don’t mean ensuring that citizens can vote in the leaders of their choosing. As cybersecurity expert Mike Benz explained on a Tucker Carlson podcast back in February, they mean protecting the institutions of democratic society and insulating them from reform — institutions like the CIA, FBI, IMF, and the World Bank. Those institutions, not the will of the voters, are what must be protected above all. And if it comes down to a contest between the two, the institutions must be protected from the voters — that is, “democracy” must be protected from the threat of free and fair elections.

So while it’s easy to scoff at the indefinite postponement of elections in Ukraine (and easier still to scoff at Blinken’s cringe-inducing guitar-playing in Kyiv), we would do well to consider what it might mean for election here at home. The truth is, our own deep state might well try to deploy this exact same rhetoric to delay or suspend elections in the United States one day, perhaps even this November.

It’s not hard to imagine how that might play out. A series of threats or purported attacks on “election infrastructure” would lead to calls for a delay, until we can ensure that all Americans can vote. In time, the categories of Americans who must be allowed to vote in order for the election to be legitimate might even expand to include felons and illegal immigrants. Is that far-fetched? After what we saw in 2020, I don’t think so.

The main takeaway from the cancellation of elections in Ukraine is that the permanent regime in Washington doesn’t really want free and fair elections in Ukraine right now for the same reason they don’t really want free and fair elections here in America: The voters might get in the way of their agenda, and they can’t have that.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: failedproxywar; killkillkillforpeace; mic; tothelastukrainian; ukraine; ukrainewar; welfarewar
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1 posted on 05/16/2024 8:52:03 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

And the Neocon War in Ukraine nearly cost the life of the Slovak leader.

Does this crap ever end, or what?


2 posted on 05/16/2024 9:00:53 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Kazan

You ever notice that neocon Zeepers never have anything to comment on when the harsh truth about the U.S. dominated proxy state gets talked about?

They are disgusting people.


3 posted on 05/16/2024 9:14:25 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Kazan

Ukraine is the most corrupt government imaginable, that we already KNOW has been giving kickbacks to US and other western politicians, especially Hunter and Joe. My guess is Zelenskyy has them all over a barrel, threatening exposure unless they keep the gravy train flowing. No doubt the kickbacks keep coming, putting politicians deeper and deeper into their pockets.


4 posted on 05/16/2024 9:20:20 AM PDT by afsnco (18 of 20 in AF JAG)
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To: Kazan
"Whatever Zeepers Are Defending In Ukraine, It Isn’t Democracy"

"Whatever U.S. Elites Are Defending In The U.S., It Isn’t Democracy"

Amazing....the change of a few words and both sentences are still relevant.

5 posted on 05/16/2024 9:22:20 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: wildcard_redneck

They avoided the threads on the Fico assassination attempt like the plague.


6 posted on 05/16/2024 9:23:36 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: Kazan

The Russian attack on Ukraine is not about NAZIs or Democracy or any of the STATED reasons. It is about the central banking systems and who will be the dominate system - US dollar or BRICS


7 posted on 05/16/2024 9:30:19 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: Kazan

The UK was under the same sort of regime in WW2.
It was a coalition cabinet under Churchill and no elections were held from 1940-45. The last general election was in 1935. The election due in 1940 was skipped.

Obviously therefore the US should have supported Hitler.


8 posted on 05/16/2024 9:34:52 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: taxcontrol

Actually, it is about Ukrainian independence from their former Russian overlords. All else is BS.


9 posted on 05/16/2024 9:35:38 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: afsnco

Imaginable?

I’ve been in far worse, no imagination needed. One of the worst is the USA, given the vast wealth at stake vis a vis US public policy. Try argue against THAT.

You all seem highly sheltered from the worlds realities.


10 posted on 05/16/2024 9:38:20 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: taxcontrol

BRICS is a figment of Xi’s imagination.


11 posted on 05/16/2024 9:39:51 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: wildcard_redneck

They are defending a long-running money laundering operation that became popular when Hunter was given a board position at Burisma.


12 posted on 05/16/2024 9:43:41 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Hunter and his dad (and uncle) were two bit grifters who offered services to everyone. The deals ranged from Romania/Cyprus to Russia to China. Money laundering is a global business, and the really big money is Chinese and Russian.


13 posted on 05/16/2024 9:52:08 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Kazan

Ukraine is not a democratic country. It is not Christian. It is not NATO. It is not even on the EU

Whatever our business is over there it has not been disclosed to the American people who are btw paying a very high price for whatever we are doing over there


14 posted on 05/16/2024 10:35:47 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Ukraine is very Christian and church going is increasing, much more so than the almost entirely non Christian Russia.


15 posted on 05/16/2024 10:46:18 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Petrosius

“Actually, it is about Ukrainian independence from their former Russian overlords. All else is BS.”

Thank you. In 1991 the Ukraine bailed on the failing soviet government and it took a generation to get strong enough politicially to try to get it back.

Most of the “talk” about this conflict has been based upon current events. People just seem to igonre the time between the early 90’s and 2011 when the combat started. And a lot happened in the Ulraine before and after that forgotten time fame. And the US is hip deep in it.

The U.S. government does not provide information about the operation of black sites, and for a period of time did not provide information about the existence of black sites.

Black sites operated by the US government and its surrogates were first officially acknowledged by President George W. Bush in the fall of 2006. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) reported details of black site practices to the US government in early 2007, and the contents of that report became public in March 2009. A number of US prisoners have been held and interrogated at these sites.

Additionally, the Pentagon said that it has operated 46 biolabs in Ukraine handling dangerous pathogens, after previously dismissing the charges as Russian propaganda. We have been transporting bio and chem weapons for research and developement to the Ukraine for many years. At this time, the pentagon has admitted to only those 46 labs.

wy69


16 posted on 05/16/2024 10:47:08 AM PDT by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: afsnco
My guess is Zelenskyy has them all over a barrel, threatening exposure unless they keep the gravy train flowing.

Seems entirely possible, perhaps even likely there is something in it for "the Big Guy".

You are welcome to use my tagline, the more the better.

17 posted on 05/16/2024 10:55:41 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Cert's of States that allow noncitizens to vote for fed offices should not be accepted on J6, 2025.)
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To: ansel12

Is that why we are over there?


18 posted on 05/16/2024 10:56:14 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

We aren’t over there and my correction was of you thinking Ukraine isn’t a Christian country.


19 posted on 05/16/2024 10:58:18 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Kazan

20 posted on 05/16/2024 11:00:13 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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