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Women athletes backsliding on Oly stage (big ole gag alert)
The Deseret News ^ | 2/26/2002 | Bonnie Erbe

Posted on 02/26/2002 2:54:05 PM PST by Utah Girl

The predominant lot of surprise, upset, upstage U.S. gold medals at Salt Lake this month were won by women. No, Wilbur, we have not forgotten Mr. Apolo Anton Ohno who brazenly attempted to skate past his presumed South Korean superior in the men's 1,500-meter speedskating competition, then came in second but won the Gold because his adversary illegally blocked him. He, Derek Parra and other male American athletes certainly succeeded in unexpected ways.

But the athletes we Americans will all remember five years from now (if indeed we remember any of them five years from now) will be Sarah Hughes, Jill Bakken and Vonetta Flowers, each of whom defied the bookmakers, came from waaaay behind and bested the presumed best.

Perhaps most astonishingly, women accomplished this in a year when the gender's stature as Olympic athletes and officials backslid. Yes, Matilda, despite all the hype about Hughes and Michelle Kwan and women being allowed to compete for the first time in two new Winter Olympic disciplines (bobsledding and curling) women are still barred from two of the 15 disciplines (ski jumping and Nordic combined). And, following several years of explosive growth among women competitors in Olympic matches, women's participation this year actually leveled off when compared with the 1998 Games in Nagano, Japan. It depressingly dropped when measured against the percentage of women athletes who took part at the 2000 Olympiad in Sydney, Australia. OK — here come the boring but important International Olympic Committee statistics. Of the 2,523 athletes accredited to participate at Salt Lake, 915 were women. I will save you the trouble of resorting to your calculator— that represents 36.2 percent. At Nagano, women's participation was exactly the same. At Sydney, it ballooned to 38.2 percent.

As if 38 percent dropping to 32 percent alone did not amount to enough backsliding, of the 78 countries participating in Salt Lake City, 22 brought no women to the Games at all. This group included such supposedly forward-thinking locales as Belgium, India (which sported one of the first female prime ministers), Thailand, Mexico and South Africa. At Nagano, a smaller number, or 18 of 72 nations (four fewer), fielded all-male delegations.

On the management level, women's participation is even more paltry. Eleven of the IOC's 149 active and honorary members are women. Embarrassed by this figure, the committee announced it will seek to boost the percentage of women officials by 20 percent in the next four years. This effort will span not only the IOC but also its various arms, including Olympic committees in each country and international federations for each sport.

The 1996 Olympics in Atlanta represented a breakthrough year for women in sports. Women athletes didn't knock down doors; they kicked down doors. If '96 was a break-through year, perhaps this is the break-down year? Women's backslide is an especially significant loss when considered against all the advances for women athletes created by their surging participation at Atlanta. Within a year of the '96 Olympics, the WNBA was launched. By 1998 the Women's United Soccer Association began play.

American sports fans explain away women's non-participation in Olympic ski jumping and nordic combined, saying it's due to "lack of depth of field," meaning there aren't enough Olympic level competitors to field a team. This, they say, will come when corporate sponsorships increase and more women compete seriously.

They say this, however, with a straight face, as we watch an Olympic women's curling team compete on international television. Are we really supposed to believe there is more corporate support for women's curling than for women skiers? I don't think so! (As a test, consider how many women curlers versus women skiers you know personally.)

Nah, admit it. Despite the charm and allure of a Sarah Hughes, despite the against-the-odds win of a Vonetta Flowers, it's still a man's world when it comes to world-class sports. And it's likely to be so for sometime to come.


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I thought the women did extremely well this year at the Olympics. The feminists just cannot resist any attempt to drag out their old tired arguments. Erbe needs to talk to most of the male Olympic athletes, they don't have sponsors either...
1 posted on 02/26/2002 2:54:05 PM PST by Utah Girl
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2 posted on 02/26/2002 2:54:27 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: summer; Lorena
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3 posted on 02/26/2002 2:54:42 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Mr. Apolo Anton Ohno who brazenly attempted to skate past his presumed South Korean superior in the men's 1,500-meter speedskating competition . . .

They weren't watching the same event I watched. I saw Ohno clearly in the lead when he was hooked by the South Korean skater from behind. Look at the position of the hips! I don't think the take-down was intentional, but the South Korean was already beat.

4 posted on 02/26/2002 3:01:28 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: Utah Girl
Oh, were there Olympics this year? Gee, I missed them...
5 posted on 02/26/2002 3:08:29 PM PST by wku man
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To: the_Watchman
That swipe at Ohno struck me funny too. He was clearly hooked by a Chinese skater and knocked down by the Korean in that other race. I don't think he acted out of line. He was called for interference in the one race, but this sport lends itself to calls like that. Everybody gets those calls once in a while. That is if they're a contender and hustling.

I was a little put off by Ohno due to the profile the network presented, but when he graciously accepted the silver after being interferred with, I realized he was a good kid. No whining there. He stated, "This is the sport I love and that's the way it works. I was really happy with my skating. I felt good out there." Pretty good attitude if you ask me.

6 posted on 02/26/2002 3:15:38 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Utah Girl
of the 78 countries participating in Salt Lake City, 22 brought no women to the Games at all. This group included such supposedly forward-thinking locales as Belgium, India (which sported one of the first female prime ministers), Thailand, Mexico and South Africa. At Nagano, a smaller number, or 18 of 72 nations (four fewer), fielded all-male delegations.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics. Should someone point out that Thailand and India each only sent one athlete? And the "backsliding" cited here is virtually the definition of "statistically insignificant."
7 posted on 02/26/2002 3:26:16 PM PST by Heyworth
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To: Utah Girl
I don't understand why we need to have women's sports at all. Why can't there be just one 4-person bobsled team? One free-style ice skating event? Do we have separate men's and women's teams so that the women can win sometimes?
8 posted on 02/26/2002 3:26:54 PM PST by JoeGar
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I forgot to say that, I think that both Thailand and India both only sent one athlete...
9 posted on 02/26/2002 3:29:52 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: JoeGar
Do we have separate men's and women's teams so that the women can win sometimes?

Yes, the women are not up to the men's level in any sport that I saw. Even in curling, the quality of the men's game was simply better.

10 posted on 02/26/2002 3:38:18 PM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue
You better watch what you say!

They're gwineter have TITLE NINE down about your ears!

11 posted on 02/26/2002 3:45:45 PM PST by one2many
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To: Utah Girl
But the athletes we Americans will all remember five years from now (if indeed we remember any of them five years from now) will be Sarah Hughes, Jill Bakken and Vonetta Flowers

This woman is an ignorant liberal, possibly of african american persuasion.

The athletes we will remember are Parra for working at home depot, sale and pelletier for obvious reasons, sara hughes, michelle kwan ( in the same way we remember jim ryan and america's blonde woman long distance runner who also fell down), yagudin and pleshenko because they will be on tv for years to come. We might remember Ohno, the australian babe, the australia guy who only by his ineptitude won the gold, picabo street, the other figure skaters (because they will be on tv later). But no way in hell are we going to remember the womens' bob sled champion simply because one of them was black.

13 posted on 02/26/2002 3:49:00 PM PST by staytrue
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To me the real oddity is that the men's curling was much higher quality than women's curling. You would think if there was one place where the women could be as good as the men, it would be curling.
14 posted on 02/26/2002 3:57:11 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Utah Girl
I'd love to watch women ski jumping.
15 posted on 02/26/2002 3:58:10 PM PST by mtg
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To: Utah Girl
Why do sumo wrestlers shave their legs? They don't want people thinking they are feminists.
16 posted on 02/26/2002 4:03:56 PM PST by Big Horn
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To: Utah Girl
What a bunch of robotic fascist statement. Backslide in woman participation = evil male still dominant etc...

These people need to take a pill and reboot their brains.

17 posted on 02/26/2002 4:04:23 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: Heyworth
Over 35 years ago my father observed that racial prejudice will have ended when you can have an all-white this, or an all black that, and (1) nobody cares and (2) nobody notices.

Do you ever get the feeling that there will ALWAYS be people like this author who just won't give it a rest?!

18 posted on 02/26/2002 4:09:50 PM PST by the_Watchman
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Oh, were there Olympics this year? Gee, I missed them...

...I...I guess I did too....Besides, why are women even in the olympics?....uh oh....I need to get out of here..

FMCDH

19 posted on 02/26/2002 5:48:00 PM PST by nothingnew
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To: JoeGar
I don't understand why we need to have women's sports at all. Why can't there be just one 4-person bobsled team? One free-style ice skating event? Do we have separate men's and women's teams so that the women can win sometimes?

How 'bout mixed luge? ;-)

foreverfree

20 posted on 02/26/2002 5:50:59 PM PST by foreverfree
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