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Israel Loses by Sinking To the Terrorists' Level
New York Daily News ^

Posted on 04/03/2002 2:14:39 PM PST by RCW2001

Israel Loses by Sinking
To the Terrorists' Level

Richard Cohensraeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has been so busy as of late, it's understandable if he missed an anniversary last month — the end of the Franco-Algerian war.

Before that war was over in 1962, at least 250,000 Algerians and 25,000 French soldiers had been killed. Add to that total about 4,500 European settlers and maybe as many as 150,000 Harkis — Algerians who worked, and sometimes fought, for the French. They were slaughtered at the war's end.

I summon up the Algerian war because I have long thought it was the direction the Palestinian insurrection would inevitably take. It's not just that both societies are overwhelmingly Muslim, but that they both consider themselves occupied by colonizers who, in turn, consider themselves to be virtually indigenous. Remember, Algeria was not a French colony. It was part of France.

And remember, too, that the French did not fight halfheartedly. From the very beginning of the war, the French responded to guerrilla and terrorist tactics with extreme repression. Assassinations were common, torture routine. The French considered their enemy barbaric. They descended to that level themselves.

The Battle of Algiers is now being fought in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, Haifa and Netanya — anywhere a suicide bomber can infiltrate. It is being fought, too, with increasingly desperate Israeli tactics: first, preemptive assassination, and now, a virtual reoccupation of the West Bank.

The turn the war has taken may be lost on Sharon and, it seems, President Bush, but not on some of those involved. "If they kill us, we kill them," said Muhammad Odeh. "It will never stop." Odeh knows whereof he speaks. His son, Abdel Basset, blew himself up in Netanya last week, killing 22 others at a Passover Seder.

Another observer, astute Israeli columnist Nahum Barnea, said something similar: "You can kill, deport and deter professionals. There is no military way to fight suicide bombers."

I understand Sharon's rage and why he lashes out at Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat who is, for sure, complicitous in the suicide bombings. It is how I felt Sept. 11, down by the World Trade Center. This is how Bush feels, too. But this understandable and even laudable desire for revenge-cum-justice has led him to essentially endorse Sharon's actions. Bush does not seem to appreciate that even when it comes to terrorism, distinctions have to be made. Downtown Manhattan or the Pentagon is not Israel or the West Bank.

The deeper Sharon plunges the Israeli military into the West Bank, the greater the peril. He and they must then swim in a sea of sharks in a culture where suicide bombers are valued, praised. He can, if he so chooses, even get rid of Arafat. But even that, in the long run, will not change matters. A new leader will arise. The struggle will continue.

The Palestinians' terrorism is inexcusable, but not inexplicable. It is their chief weapon, and, moreover, it works. It will persist until Palestinians feel that their political concerns are addressed.

The tragedy is that the major parties ostensibly agree: There should be a Palestinian state, and Israel should be entitled to live in peace. For that to happen, though, first Israel must get out of the West Bank and abandon most (not all) of the settlements. A retreat to the 1967 borders might well be a capitulation to terrorism, but it also would be in Israel's best interest.

The French, who now lecture the U.S. on human rights, proved in Algeria that nothing could prevail over an enemy that fought dirtier, meaner and with more determination than they could. There is a lesson there for Ariel Sharon and George Bush. Take it — or repeat it.


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1 posted on 04/03/2002 2:14:39 PM PST by RCW2001
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Where's the barf alert???
2 posted on 04/03/2002 2:17:54 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: RCW2001
Maybe the US should forget about 9/11 too. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. And might does make right.
3 posted on 04/03/2002 2:19:08 PM PST by samson1
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To: RCW2001
The tragedy is that the major parties ostensibly agree: There should be a Palestinian state, and Israel should be entitled to live in peace.

This is news to me. The Arabs don't believe Israel should be entitled to live in peace.

4 posted on 04/03/2002 2:19:19 PM PST by LarryM
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5 posted on 04/03/2002 2:20:55 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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"Israel Loses by Sinking To the Terrorists' Level"

This is a typically stupid leftist liberal statement. Our gov't only just realized that you have to employ informants who are just as bad as the terrorists if you're going to infiltrate the terror organizations. You send a thief to catch a thief...

6 posted on 04/03/2002 2:21:29 PM PST by etcetera
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It will persist until Palestinians feel that their political concerns are addressed.

Nonsense. I don't know and nobody knows how long it will persist. What we know is that the 9/11 terrorists were not Palestinians and the Indian and Paki Muslim terrorists are not Palestinians and the Filipino Muslim terrorists are not Palestinians. Get a clue, whoever you are (i.e. the author) it's something else that drives them. Get educated too, these questions have been answered before.

7 posted on 04/03/2002 2:21:57 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: wardaddy

Right here.

8 posted on 04/03/2002 2:23:41 PM PST by dighton
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To: RCW2001
Apparently Israel wins by taking the moral high ground, turning the other cheek, and allowing their citizens to be slaughtered.
9 posted on 04/03/2002 2:23:51 PM PST by The Vast Right Wing
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Israel Loses by Sinking To the Terrorists' Level

Maybe so...but there will be a few less Palestinian terrorists at the victory party.

10 posted on 04/03/2002 2:24:32 PM PST by Pete
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To: Pete
Ditto
11 posted on 04/03/2002 2:27:34 PM PST by samson1
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To: RCW2001
Israel Loses by Sinking To the Terrorists' Level

Penicillin users lose by sinking to the microbes' level.

You know, those poor little germs, all they want is the same thing you do--complete and total possession of your body. You're so big and powerful, you ought to work out a compromise with them and let them have part of your body to be their very own. If you do, I'm sure they would respect your gesture. But, NO, oh NO, you have to start treating them like an enemy, with heartlessness and without compassion, without any sign that you understand where they're coming from and how they have needs, too.

Concealed weapons carriers lose by sinking to the criminal's level.

You know, those poor little robbers, all they want is the same thing you do--complete and total possession of your cash. They threaten you with a gun over your cash. You threaten them with a gun over your cash. You're both using intimidation and threat of force to get what you want. How are you morally any different from them? You ought to work out a compromise with them and share. If you do, I'm sure they would respect your gesture. But, NO, oh NO, you have to start treating them like an enemy, with heartlessness and without compassion, without any sign that you understand where they're coming from and how they have needs, too.
12 posted on 04/03/2002 2:34:58 PM PST by aruanan
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Sink to their level? Hardly...just fighting them on a level they can comprehend. It's always easier to fight someone who doesn't fight back. Now that Israel is fighting back, the Palestinians are crying foul. Boohoo!
13 posted on 04/03/2002 2:36:44 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: etcetera
"Certainly, America must stand firm on Israel's side, but that does not necessarily means that World War III must start now!"

We may not have a choice. Supposedly, Syria is moving its troops in Lebanon toward the Israeli border. Now just suppose that Israel decides that it must strike pre-emptively, so Israel sends aircraft to bomb the Syrians in the Bekkaa Valley. This in turn brings Lebanon and Syria into play. Saddam may see this as his chance to get involved. Egypt and Jordan mobilize because of pressure by their populations.

As the situation deteriorates, and the Arabs begin an oil embargo as a weapon. This threatens the E.U and Japan who are major users of Mid East oil. The embargo will raise oil prices world-wide and threaten economies globally. Will the U.S. just stand by and let it happen?

14 posted on 04/03/2002 2:38:34 PM PST by etcetera
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They (the Israeli's) have learned the lessons of ethnic cleansing well from the Nazi's and are out Nazing them
15 posted on 04/03/2002 2:41:11 PM PST by mae32
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NBC Nightly News is really playing up the demonstrations in various countries against Israel. NBC, like the other major news networks, is so pro-Arafat it's sickening.
16 posted on 04/03/2002 2:41:34 PM PST by TomGuy
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Israel is not Algeria. Unlike the French, the Jews have no where to run to. Its a fight to the finish.
17 posted on 04/03/2002 2:43:12 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: RCW2001
Thank you for teaching me the following:

If your enemy is willing to fight dirtier than you, you will necessarily lose.

Hmmm. But for some reason sinking to their level doesn't work.

This is patently ludicrous, hypocritical, and no doubt the musings of a complete (leftist) jackass.

Let's examine what else history teaches us:

Blow the motherf@ckers to next year. Works every time.

For your very own personal example, let's play a visualization game, OK?

Think Kamikaze suicide warrriors.

Picture that? Good.

Now think Hiroshima.

Excellent.

And finally, think BOOM!

See, works every time.

18 posted on 04/03/2002 2:44:34 PM PST by Stallone
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Remember, Algeria was not a French colony. It was part of France.

Wrong! Algeria was a colony.

The tragedy is that the major parties ostensibly agree: There should be a Palestinian state, and Israel should be entitled to live in peace. For that to happen, though, first Israel must get out of the West Bank and abandon most (not all) of the settlements. A retreat to the 1967 borders might well be a capitulation to terrorism, but it also would be in Israel's best interest.

Wrong again! The "Palestininans" have never agreed that "Israel should be entitled to live in peace."

Who wrote this garbage? Why did you refrain from posting the author's name? I know it wasn't Josef Goebbels; we hanged him.

19 posted on 04/03/2002 2:44:40 PM PST by mrustow
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To: RCW2001
What is this neurotic obsession of the West with some 'moral high ground'? Besides, I thought these same left wing intellectuals had told us that we're all post-modern now and that 'moral high ground' and such quaint concepts are all relative, artificial constructs. Plus, if we are to believe the leading Western philosopher, highly respected in France, and named Woody Allen who says there is no God, then everything is permitted!

(Sorry, random thoughts, I'm all over the place here.)

20 posted on 04/03/2002 2:44:40 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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