[Loyalist]

Now opening the floor to comments....

[ikka]

Men do not see a value to what is taught in the schools. The free market's invisible hand slaps the university upside the head.

[Marylander]

Here's a solution. Get rid of all the school personnel who have been persecuting boys for the last three decades. It would be a good idea for US schools, too.

It would be a start.

[MarkWar]

>Let's Make Sure Boys Get to University

This is a tricky issue to my eyes.

Academia is such a rancid, inhuman atmosphere that I could never with a clean conscience recommend that anyone spend four years (or more!) getting mangled there. OTOH, the corporate personnel departments have made a degree a requirement for anything but grunt work or the lowest level supervisory positions, so if you expect to get a "decent" job I could never with a clean conscience recommend that anyone not go to college.

(Interestingly, prior to "human resource" departments, that is, mostly, prior to WWII, corporate management generally looked for people who had proved themselves on the job to advance within the ranks. Now, the stats for middle or upper management with no degree are vanishingly small.)

Of course, without a degree, nothing at all stops you for starting your own company and getting rich that way. There are more CEO's without college degrees than there are middle managers! (Although even that number is almost vanishingly small...)

Mark W.

[crystalk]

In America, affirmative action makes a college education of little value to a white male, so why should their families make such an awful sacrifice, unless they are utterly RICH, of course....even then, why not just buy them a sailboat instead, maybe they will sail off somewhere where they don't have affirmative action...

[Lorenb420]

When I was in high school, the teachers told me not to go to university, because I wouldn't be able to cut it and what not. I wanted to go anyway, but at that point, I would have had to take another year of high school to get my OACs ( grade 13 ; I think they finally got rid of that up here just recently ) so I could apply.

So I said the heck with that, and I went to college, mostly because I was sick of high school. I was taking computer science, but I droped out in my first year to start working full-time.

I now run my own business and make a decent living.

In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't go to university up here. Most of my friends who went, used it as an excuse to party for a few more years. At the end of it, they came out with lots of liberal ideas, crushing student loans, and not much in the way of job prospects.

I only know a couple of people who repaid their student loans, most people I know just declared bankruptcy.

Almost none of them use their degree in their work.

About the only thing I can see most of my friends getting out of university was a lot of them ended up meeting their wives/husbands/shack-up/whatever-they-else-people-are-calling-it, while students there.