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1 posted on 09/20/2002 10:14:08 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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If they keep fining Slick, maybe we can retire the national debt. Just a thought...
2 posted on 09/20/2002 10:18:20 PM PDT by Aracelis
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They fined the Buddhists, but not AL Gore. What the hell is that. Al Gore should be paying the fine. He set the whole thing up after all.
4 posted on 09/20/2002 10:32:19 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy
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Ahhh, excuse me... I have to urinate. To much ice tea.
6 posted on 09/20/2002 10:35:35 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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Let me get this straight: take a million or so in illegal money, pay $243k back in fines.

SIGN ME UP!!!

7 posted on 09/20/2002 10:38:34 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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This is such good news. Maybe not the stiff fines I had hoped for, but good nevertheless. Hopefully, the dems will get the message that this admin will not allow them to get away with this stuff.
12 posted on 09/20/2002 10:46:00 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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this from a lawyer:

why the f**k wasn't the fine/penalty/restitution at least twice the swag they originally took in?

16 posted on 09/20/2002 10:54:34 PM PDT by johnboy
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Well, I see we have our latest Friday news dump.

Only problem I see is the Dems' fines are way too light.

AND WE SAID THEY WERE CROOKED. NOW NOBODY CAN TELL US IT WAS OUR IMAGINATION OR BLIND BIGOTRY! (This part I love!)
20 posted on 09/20/2002 11:04:45 PM PDT by Humidston
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We have know this for years - and this is all that happens? They exchanged our nuclear secrets for campaign dollars - anyone can see that.

And our spineless AG and even I'm sad to say our President should never have let these guys get away with this.....
21 posted on 09/20/2002 11:06:06 PM PDT by M. Peach
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bump
27 posted on 09/20/2002 11:24:43 PM PDT by JPJones
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The commission also found "probable cause" to believe that Hogan & Hartson, a Washington law firm, violated election laws in the handling of $50,000 in donations that a client of the firm made to the national committee in summer 1996. Two officials at the firm who were involved in the handling of the donations have agreed to pay a total of $67,500.

So when will they be disbarred or otherwise disciplined by the bar association? Is it time to start writing the bar association like we did when Clinton admitted to perjury?

29 posted on 09/20/2002 11:33:53 PM PDT by ikka
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"money used to make the contribution was provided by Sheik Mohammed Oboud Al-Amoudi, a Saudi citizen, who wired $150,000 to the company. The company used this money for the donation "even though its officers had been informed that foreign national contributions are illegal," the election commission found."

Hmmmm. I find the Saudi contribution the most interesting item here.
31 posted on 09/21/2002 12:10:17 AM PDT by windchime
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..."The largest fine, $120,000, was paid by the International Buddhist Progress Society, which operates the Hsi Lai Temple in California, the site of an April 1996 luncheon attended by Vice President Al Gore. The national committee paid a $115,000 fine and agreed to turn over to the Treasury $128,000 it had received in illegal contributions. The Clinton/Gore '96 Primary Committee paid a $2,000 fine, the records also show."...

So let me see if I understand this. Maria Hsia spent time in jail but her pals at the Buddhist temple paid a $120k fine, the DNC coughs up another $115k in fines and returns the $128k it received in donations, and Slick/Whore pitch in a paltry $2k.

It's early, but if there's a controlling criminal authority for Ms Hsia why is there only a controlling civil authority for the DNC and Slick/Whore? Second, the facts in the case seemed clear enough in 1998 for Ms Hsia to go to jail. Why did it take this long for FEC to make its ruling? Wouldn't it have be better for our democracy to inform the voters in 2000 about AlWhore's illegal activity from his 1996 campaign?

Fred Thompson's commitee was steam-rolled and this proves it. John Glenn is a pimp. The whole thing stinks and leads me to think we won't know the whole story on the Marc Rich pardon crime until sometime in 2010.

Pathetic.
32 posted on 09/21/2002 1:39:39 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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The Democratic National Committee has agreed to pay civil fines and turn over to the Treasury a total of $243,000 to settle accusations that it took more than $1 million in illegal foreign contributions in 1995 and 1996, according to Federal Election Commission records released today.

No hard time, and they get to keep 75cents on the dollar. Yeah that will teach them...

33 posted on 09/21/2002 1:49:11 AM PDT by American in Israel
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I was on vacation in Carlsbad, CA the week the Senate held its hearings on the matter, and was hoping to watch the proceedings on CNN. They didn't show any of it-except for the Democrat grilling of Haley Barbor!
35 posted on 09/21/2002 2:33:09 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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Record fines in ’96 Democrats’ case
Commission faults participants in foreign fundraising
By Thomas B. Edsall and Edward Walsh
THE WASHINGTON POST
WASHINGTON, Sept 21 — The Federal Election Commission disclosed yesterday it has imposed a record-setting $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources.

THE FEC DOCUMENTS describe Democratic fundraisers who set specific prices for foreign nationals to make illegal campaign contributions in return for meetings with then-President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore. A Democratic finance vice chair, for example, said organizers would have to contribute a total of $100,000 in return for Gore’s appearance at a Buddhist temple in Los Angeles.

Those penalized included the Democratic National Committee, the Clinton-Gore campaign, the Buddhist temple and nearly two dozen people and corporations acting as conduits for illegal contributions. All have agreed to pay, according to the documents. The total in fines would have been significantly higher except that some of the corporations have folded and others were dummy operations, with no assets, set up as conduits for money from China, Venezuela, Canada and other countries. Foreign individuals and organizations are barred from contributing to federal elections. In some cases, foreigners who would have been subject to fines could not be located and served with papers. In other cases, which sometimes produced minor news coverage, the individuals pleaded guilty in criminal cases and are bankrupt.

The DNC was fined $115,000, the Clinton-Gore campaign $2,000, and the Buddhist Progress Society $120,000. In the conciliation signed by DNC lawyer Joseph Sandler, the party agreed to pay the fine and to “disgorge [another] $128,000” to the U.S. Treasury, representing illegal contributions that were not returned to donors. In a separate document, the FEC said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents are either “are out of the country and beyond our reach, or corporations that are defunct.”

VARIETY OF ILLEGAL SCHEMES In over 400 pages of documents, the FEC detailed a variety of illegal fundraising schemes in the 1996 Clinton reelection organization. In some respects, the 1996 fundraising efforts by the Clinton White House and DNC were a Democratic counterpart to the Republican Watergate scandals of 1972. Just as Watergate was followed by the campaign finance laws of 1974 and 1976, disclosures of the 1996 activities played a crucial role in prompting Congress to enact the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill this year. The FEC describes how John Huang, a DNC finance vice-chair in 1996, “set a goal of raising $7 million from the Asian-American community.” This effort included the now-famous luncheon with Gore at the Buddhist temple, as well as a “coffee” at the White House and a “birthday dinner for President Clinton” at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York.

Huang, a central figure in the fundraising controversy, pleaded guilty in 1999 to conspiracy to defraud the FEC. He was sentenced to one year’s probation and fined $10,000. The FEC documents detail several illegal contributions stemming from Huang’s efforts, including: $250,000 from Cheong Am America Inc., a subsidiary of a Korean firm, Ateck Co. “On April 8, 1996, Cheong Am officials met briefly with President Clinton and gave John Huang ... an envelope with a corporate check for $250,000 made out to the DNC,” according to the FEC. The amount represented $50,000 for each of the five company officials who met with Clinton. Huang received $40,000 from Indonesian nationals Arief and Soroya Wiriadinata that was deposited in the DNC’s federal account in June 1996. Huang accepted $327,500 from Pauline Kanchanalak of Thailand, who attended “a White House ‘coffee’ with President Clinton on June 18, 1996.” The FEC said Kanchanalak “paid a total of $277,500 for the coffee in installments” made out to state parties in order “to satisfy Pauline Kanchanalak’s desire to avoid media attention.” The FEC documents indicate that Huang has agreed to pay a $95,000 fine.

$150,000 FOR CLINTON MEETING The documents also describe how Robert S. Lee, a California developer, negotiated the price of a meeting between President Clinton and several executives of II Sung Construction, a Korean company. The documents say Lee met Larry Wallace, an Arkansas lawyer with ties to the DNC, to seek the meeting. Wallace told Lee “that he could arrange the meeting at a DNC fundraiser, but a donation would have to be made to the DNC.” Wallace and Lee “agreed on a figure of $150,000.” In a separate document, the FEC said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions.

The FEC fined Lee $250, noting that the penalty would normally be 200 percent of the violation, or $300,000, but Lee is $850,000 in debt and has already been sentenced to three years probation on a misdemeanor. The FEC documents are rich in detail on the behind-the-scenes world of political fundraising. They describe how Chien Chuen “Johnny” Chung brought 20 guests to a $1,000-per-person Clinton-Gore fundraising dinner in Los Angeles in 1995. Chung tried to pay for the dinner with a check for $25,000, but it was refused by Karen Sternfeld, the campaign’s deputy finance director for Southern California. She told Chung she needed 20 checks of $1,000 each from his guests. The next day, Sternfeld asked Irene Wu, an employee of Chung’s company, about the 20 checks, but was told the guests had scattered and the checks could not be obtained. According to the documents, Sternfeld said the checks did not have to be from the people who attended the dinner, and directed Wu to meet her at a restaurant later that day to deliver the money. The documents said Wu and others then collected 20 checks of $1,000 each from “conduits,” who were promised they would be reimbursed, and Chung later withdrew $20,000 in cash from his bank accounts to repay the conduit contributors.

36 posted on 09/21/2002 3:02:52 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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FEC fines total $719,000 for '96 fund-raising scheme
Illegal foreign donations bought access to Clinton, Gore
Thomas B. Edsall, Edward Walsh, Washington Post
Saturday, September 21, 2002
©2002 San Francisco Chronicle.

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2002/09/21/MN66895.DTL

Washington -- The Federal Election Commission disclosed Friday it has imposed a record- setting $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fund-raising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources.

The FEC documents describe Democratic fund-raisers who set specific prices for foreign citizens to make illegal campaign contributions in return for meetings with then-President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore. A Democratic finance vice chair, for example, said organizers would have to contribute a total of $100,000 in return for Gore's appearance at a Buddhist temple in Los Angeles.

...SNIP...

37 posted on 09/21/2002 3:40:28 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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The International Buddhist Progress Society...........LOLOLOL.....ah yes, there are FOB and there are FOG...........LOLOL
38 posted on 09/21/2002 3:58:08 AM PDT by OldFriend
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...the commission voted unanimously to "take no action at this time" on the general counsel's recommendation.

So who is the General Counsel? The FEC website doesn't say, neither can I find a name on google.com. Very curious. I did find this:

The General Counsel has primary responsibility for the overall direction and management of the Office of the General Counsel, which has approximately 120 personnel, including over 70 attorneys. Former General Counsel Lawrence M. Noble resigned the position on January 1, 2001, to accept a post outside of government.

The vacancy announcement (no. 01-012) carries a closing date of March 20, 2001. The General Counsel post is an Executive Level V (EX-V) position with a salary of $117,600 per annum. Interested candidates should review the entire announcement and application requirements by visiting the FEC website at www.fec.gov/jobs.htm or calling 202-694-1080.

Anybody?

40 posted on 09/21/2002 4:05:56 AM PDT by snopercod
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41 posted on 09/21/2002 4:11:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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Interesting the NY Times is reporting this ... but of course it's the Saturday edition ... the least read publication of the week.
43 posted on 09/21/2002 4:19:45 AM PDT by BluH2o
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