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To: Coleus
I will not argue with your right be believe what you want. If your religion dictates that, then that's the way it is for you. I see that from your profile that the only time you post it has to do with abortion. Apparently you feel quite strongly about that.

I will say, however, that if you really think that you and your groups will ever abolish abortion completely in this country and to the extent you want it, you will not.

You do more to hurt your cause than to forward it by bringing your religious views into it. This is not a "religious nation", we are secular.

And before you start accusing me of wanting to murder children, you are wrong. But, I do not believe that any law is going to stop it from happening. Abortion will be reduced when peoples hearts and minds are changed. No law ever prevented "murder".

As I see it, many of the anti abortion groups should join forces, set up homes for unwed mothers, help the women that find homes for their children. Yelling and preaching at people, calling them murderers or sinners and trying to pass laws will, in the end, do nothing. Compassion and help to those who need it will do more good than any protest or law.

19 posted on 01/26/2003 1:52:38 PM PST by LisaAnne
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To: LisaAnne
I will say, however, that if you really think that you and your groups will ever abolish abortion completely in this country and to the extent you want it, you will not.>>>

You will never get rid of rape, will you? But I sure bet you want laws against it, NO? The same here with abortion. And how does religion? hurt the abortion cause? God has nothing to do with life and death? Hmmm, I've never heard that one before. And where the heck did I accuse you of murdering children? Are you telling me you are a frequent consumer of RU-486? You started prying and I started responding, I just wish you came right out and stated your views instead of playing games.

And I beg to differ with you, we are a very religious nation where religious freedom prevails and where our founding fathers wanted God in the daily lives of all Americans only not to have an official "American" religion if you are referring to the establishment clause.

>>>>As I see it, many of the anti abortion groups should join forces, set up homes for unwed mothers, help the women that find homes for their children. >>>>

And we are helping women with pregnancies, It's being done all over usually started by the pro life people.
http://www.priestsforlife.org/brochures/thebible.html
http://www.womenandchildrenfirst.org/
http://www.pregnancycenters.org/
http://www.birthright.org/
http://www.abortionalternatives.com/flash/index.html
http://www.skylace.net/adoption/g-agencies.php3
http://www.friendship-center.org/where.htm
http://www.care-net.org/homeframeset.html
http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/
http://www.rosegardenhome.org
http://www.theopendoor.com/
http://www.feministsforlife.org/cop/ads.htm
http://lifesavers.glorifyjesus.com/

And yes, RU-486 does indeed, KILL Babies.
21 posted on 01/26/2003 2:12:26 PM PST by Coleus (RU 486 Kills Babies)
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To: LisaAnne
-- Abortion will be reduced when peoples hearts and minds are changed.

Very true. It is worth noting however, that the present pro-abortion laws do not represent the people's attitudes. I just posted an article about it.

-- No law ever prevented "murder".

True, but... no law should ever allow killing innocent humans.

-- Yelling and preaching at people, calling them murderers or sinners and trying to pass laws will, in the end, do nothing. Compassion and help to those who need it will do more good than any protest or law.

Both are essential -- preaching the Truth and acts of charity.

40 posted on 01/27/2003 10:21:27 AM PST by heyheyhey
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To: LisaAnne
No law ever prevented "murder".

Tell that to the gangbangers, serial killers, mass murderers, and war criminals who sit in prison because of laws against murder. Tell that to their would-be victims, whose lives were saved by the laws against murder.

53 posted on 01/28/2003 5:00:05 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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