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Combat, combat support, support

Last I checked, those three classifications were used to describe all MOS (jobs for those in civies) possitions.

I have no problem with women in support or limited roles in combat support troops. I do have a problem with combat roles.

Infantry, tankers, artillery or any role that puts rounds on target (A10s, attack helicopters, etc.) should not be open to females.

Combat support roles should be available - providing there are not reduced standards or different standards for the females.

Also, fitness standards should be based upon job requirements. The standard Army PT test requires running 2 miles. For infantry, a forced march of 15 miles is a more appropriate test. Perhaps these additional requirements could be combined with annual qualification or MOS certification.

Just my .02

most military jobs excluding infantry grunt and heavy lifting jobs can be done by women. In your ignorance you appear oblivious to the fact that MOST military slots are REMF slots

This may be true but what you need to realize is a bunch of those jobs you call RE can quickly become combat slots........ask Jessica Lynch. Jobs that have been opened up to women that are considered combat support should have the same physical requirements of direct combat positions for just the reason I previously stated.

Blow it out your ear, moron. I am ex-service and tell you straight out -- most military jobs excluding infantry grunt and heavy lifting jobs can be done by women. In your ignorance you appear oblivious to the fact that MOST military slots are REMF slots.

You know what, I don't care if you're ex-service. I've listened to enough characters like you, with IQs in the minus range, to last a lifetime. Being ex-service gives you no free ride, for your stupidity and dishonesty!

Just a question to all of you who say a woman can't meet the physical fitness standards.

When you see a woman in the gym who's muscular, and works hard to be strong and tough, what do you call her? Most of the guys I know snigger behind their backs and call her a dyke. I frequently feel that no matter how hard I work, I can't win. I lift weights 3 times a week, work on my cardio, and have a blue belt in Kenpo. I'm strong, confident, and a good fighter. Do you know what I get in return? I get "dyke" jokes. (For the record, I'm not, and never have been.) So, gentlemen, the next time you want to jump on the "women are physically inferior" train, ask yourself how you would treat one who works hard to make herself the physical equal of a man. If she asked you to spot her in the weight room would you? What if she could lift more than you? If she needed a sparring partner would you spar with her?

As for men in combat situations not performing as well because a woman is around, that's your problem buster, not mine. You think you need to protect poor little us from being raped or beaten? News flash: that can and does happen at home all the time. Up until the last century, it could be done legally done by a husband in the US. Women have been brutalized in their very own homes for most of history, why is it so much more abhorrent when it happens in war?

To: mrustow
Blow it out your ear, moron........ In your ignorance.......
15 posted on 05/02/2003 12:02 PM PDT by dark_lord
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To: dark_lord
Being ex-service gives you no free ride, for your stupidity and dishonesty!
20 posted on 05/02/2003 1:11 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Ah, mrustow;
Your narrow perspective is exceeded only by your lack of manners. You know nothing of me, my IQ, or anything else; but you feel free to call me stupid and dishonest. Presumably you learned how to communicate on teenage IM boards where lack of ability to make a point is covered up by your deep mastery of the casual insult.
34 posted on 05/02/2003 9:31 PM PDT by dark_lord
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Guys, I always find it interesting when the initiators of flame wars are the first to cry fowl. Peace and love, George.