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No Respect for the Dead (Thurmond-related)
Backcountry Conservative ^ | 6/28/03 | Jeff Quinton

Posted on 06/27/2003 10:32:07 PM PDT by AJ Insider

No Respect for the Dead

I really wasn't that surprised that many of the national news reports would dwell upon Trent Lott's remarks at Thurmond's retirement party and I was even less surprised that most of the articles written today would include mentions of Thurmond's changing views on race and integration. It is a bit interesting that the NY Times, that running joke of a newspaper in Gotham, chose as its headline: Strom Thurmond, Foe of Integration, Dies at 100. Of all the things they could mention about Thurmond, the headline writer/editor chose to leave it as just Strom Thurmond, Foe of Integration without even mentiong he held office of any kind. The actual obituary in the Times, written by Adam Clymer, is as balanced as you could expect from Clymer and the Times. Best of the Web discusses some of Clymer's bias in the article. Jeffrey Gettleman's piece in the Times Saturday is a stark contrast to Clymer's.

Governor Mark Sanford's written statement praised Thurmond and an interview with Fox News did the same. In the television interview, Sanford threw in a little twist (as if he were concerned about future criticism he might receive for praising Thurmond.) He mentioned the impact of all that Thurmond did, some of it good and some of it bad. This statement surprised me a bit, especially considering the strong written statement issued by Sanford that called Thurmond a "Colossus."

My friend Michael Graham's take on Thurmond's death really isn't that surprising either. Graham ran the campaign of Harold Worley against Thurmond in the GOP Primary in 1996 after Jim Miles backed out of running. Graham's assessments might catch some off guard so soon after Thurmond's passing, but he lacks the vitriol of those on the left and the handful on the right.

Graham:

have no desire to speak ill of the dead, but go to the Hot Sheet and read the absolute drivel S.C. politicians are putting out about Strom. Sen. Graham's comments about his "legacy" are particularly disturbing. WHAT legacy? Sen. Thurmond's office was legendary in its ability to keep track of birthdays and graduations--I got a couple of these machine-signed letters from Thurmond myself. But handling my Social Security check isn't a "legacy."

Can't we be honest in our tribute? Strom Thurmond held office a long time. Many South Carolinians liked him. He reflected their values very well. He set many records and will be remembered in many, many rounds of Trivial Pursuit. But that's it. Stop the nonsense of implying that Sen. Thurmond accomplished anything, other than the successful political advancement of Strom Thurmond. He was a basically good guy with very bad fundamental ideas who lived to be so old that people stopped caring what he believed because he could no longer articulate it anyway. That's all. He was no Reagan, no Goldwater, no Moynihan. He wasn't even a Fritz Hollings, whose name actually appears on some significant national legislation.

He was just Ol' Strom, and that's all anyone ever asked him to be.

Graham's candor is restrained and respectful compared to that of others, including some who claim to be conservatives. Andrew Sullivan, who is known more for being an openly gay conservative/libertarian than he is for any actual substantive thoughts, strikes out at Thurmond in a crude attempt at humor (Thanks to Wrisley.com for being the first place to point it out.)

Sullivan:

SODOMY LEGAL IN SOUTH CAROLINA: Strom Thurmond dead. On the same day. It's a funny old world, isn't it?

Sullivan later linked to a 1997 story from The Onion, a parody news site, discussing Thurmond's change of heart on the gay issue after a sexual encounter with a gay man.

Continuing in this vein, another self-professing conservative and blogger - A Small Victory - trashes Thurmond and in the process gets her link yanked from our list.

ASV:

Strom kicks the bucket. I bet even the worms in his coffin find him distasteful. Good riddance to 100 year old racist rubbish.

Best of the Web also summarizes how Thurmond's record on race changed over the years with links to many of the points made today in other places. One of these is one mentioned by Mort Kondracke on Fox News Channel tonight - that Thurmond worked to abolish the poll tax and cracked down on lynchings as Governor before he ran for President as a Dixiecrat.

Other sources have also mentioned Thurmond was one of the first Senators to hire a Black staff member (Tom Moss in the early 1970s) and that he received over 20% of the Black vote in his last election in 1996.

If Thurmond was still as evil as many of these morons are alleging, then why did Congressman Jim Clyburn, head of the Congressional Black Caucus, say, "Senator Thurmond was symbolic of the Old South, but his willingness to change over time set an example for many South Carolinians."

Some of the same liberals online who are taking such delight and glee at the death of Thurmond are the same types of people who tried to insinuate, at the Mondale pep rally disguised as a memorial service for Paul Wellstone, that Norm Coleman was being disrespectful by leaving his name on the ballot after Wellstone's death. Those in attendance in Minnesota even booed Trent Lott as he attempted to eulogize his departed colleague.

Joe Biden, a liberal senator who will be delivering a eulogy to Thurmond at Tuesday's funeral, said the following:

"I believe Strom Thurmond was a captive of his era, his age and his geography. I do not believe Strom Thurmond at his core was a racist. But even if he had been, I believe that he changed."

Even Tom Daschle, who didn't see eye to eye with Thurmond on many issues, could separate the personal from the political with his statement, even if Jesse Jackson could not.

Jackson:

"While we offer condolences to his family, we cannot revise history."

Most of the criticism comes from those living in liberal enclaves in the northeast and west who feel that they are more enlightened on matters of race than those of who they feel are just dumb rednecks in the South. I guess none of them remembers the Watts riots in 1965, the L.A. riots in 1992 or the busing riots in Boston in 1974.

The trend, especially among leftists, is to totally trash anyone whom they disagree with, especially following their death, in an attempt to rewrite history to paint the person as more horrible than the facts bear out. Had anyone been making wisecracks about Wellstone's death last year or writing biased stories about him, we would have never heard the end of it from the liberals.

It is apparent that none of these people know how to keep their mouths shut until later. Even if you totally dislike everything a person stood for, you should hold your tongue upon their death, for your spewing will do nothing but make the grief of that person's loved ones worse. It won't change any of the things you didn't like about that person and it won't accomplish anything other than inflating your ego while tramping on someone else's grave.

I guess Michael Graham was right in Redneck Nation; the worst qualities of the South in the past have been adopted by liberals all over the country, who didn't take any of the good qualities with them.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: andrew; biden; clymer; daschle; jackson; jesse; media; strom; sullivan; thurmond
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1 posted on 06/27/2003 10:32:08 PM PDT by AJ Insider
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To: AJ Insider
Poor dems . . . I'm sure they're upset, wishing Strom had died just before election 2004 so they could bring up all this unsavoriness. As it is, the negative things they're evoking about Strom (and in association with the republican party of course) will have been long, long forgotten come then.
2 posted on 06/27/2003 10:48:53 PM PDT by gop_gene
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To: AJ Insider
My family got those machine cards for years at Christmas.My dad as far as I know never donated to Strom,but always spoke highly of him.This is when I was a kid in the 60s.When I got older and started to get into politics I sent a donation to him and got a real signature on a card from him. He was a very good man,and will be missed by many in this state.
3 posted on 06/27/2003 10:59:00 PM PDT by noutopia
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To: AJ Insider
Noted also that the flag at our post office , county seat and work was not at half staff for old Strom. Whats up with that ???.........he served long enough to warrant at least that IMO.........

Stay Safe !

4 posted on 06/27/2003 11:01:11 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: AJ Insider
I wonder how these same a$$wipes will eulogize Robert Byrd (a known Klan member) when he kicks the bucket.

The left knows no shame.

5 posted on 06/27/2003 11:06:20 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Squantos
I love it how liberals are so outraged that he once held segregationist views. He was born in 1902 for cripes sake. Blacks were slaves some 35 years before.
6 posted on 06/27/2003 11:09:21 PM PDT by conservativefromGa (www.awbansunset.com)
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To: AJ Insider
Here in MN> they talk as if Wellstone was GOD!! They are trying too build shrines here. And I have too sit here and watch as my money is collected, schools are named. I do not wish death on almost anyone. But come on he was a left-wing wacco. There is no balance at all. Come on Lefties!!!
7 posted on 06/27/2003 11:09:51 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: conservativefromGa
There was a quote yesterday about why he swapped parties. Said the RAT's were going socialist way back then and he wasu not that kind of democrat errr to that effect.

Bless the old guy for his service to our nation.........

Stay Safe !

8 posted on 06/27/2003 11:15:01 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: blackbart.223
The Wall St. Journal article pointed out that Thurmond's obit was probably first written and filed away in the 80s at the Washington Post.

I imagine they've been sharpening their knives for Thurmond for years, and this is just a small sampling of what we'll get when Reagan passes away.
9 posted on 06/27/2003 11:15:38 PM PDT by AJ Insider
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To: Squantos
I would think that Bush or the GSA or someone would have done an executive order...

Here in SC, I noticed no flags at half-staff, and the ones I heard about that were quickly went to half-staff by midday when they realized their faux pas.
10 posted on 06/27/2003 11:17:09 PM PDT by AJ Insider
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To: AJ Insider
I lowered mine here in Texas without permission....doom on me , honors to ole Strom .

Stay Safe !

11 posted on 06/27/2003 11:21:30 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: conservativefromGa
I love it how liberals are so outraged that he once held segregationist views. He was born in 1902 for cripes sake. Blacks were slaves some 35 years before.

They're still slaves
LeBron James signs with NIKE for $90 million
And with Cleveland for $?????
And he can't speak a word of intelligble English
How did he get through Grade School, never mind high school or University?
Maybe Thurmond was right 50 years ago
12 posted on 06/27/2003 11:43:53 PM PDT by Alberta Pride
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To: Squantos
So did I here... as soon as the sun came up Friday.

Those EOs just apply to gov't facilities anyway...

Back when Floyd Spence died, the office of fellow congressman Jim Clyburn in Columbia, SC was a bit slow getting theirs to half mast... but they didn't make that mistake this time.
13 posted on 06/27/2003 11:47:13 PM PDT by AJ Insider
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To: AJ Insider

When "Sheets" Byrd meets his maker, I bet there won't be any mention of his KKK membership anywhere in any article, or obit...not like Strom, where something about his history on racial issues was in the first sentance, or first paragraph.


14 posted on 06/27/2003 11:57:39 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Tag line produced using 100% post-consumer recycled, dropped ethernet packets,)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Clymer even cited someone else' racism as an indictment of Thurmond. From Best of the Web: What Liberal Media? Is it possible that Adam Clymer's New York Times obituary for Thurmond is just a wee bit biased? The headline reads: "Strom Thurmond, Foe of Integration, Dies at 100." This seems somewhat unfair; he was a foe of integration, but hadn't been one for decades. Then there's this lovely passage:
After President Truman announced a broad civil rights program and issued an executive order to integrate the armed services in 1948, Mr. Thurmond was not among the president's most strident early critics. He said nothing comparable to the analogy by Senator Richard B. Russell of Georgia that using the Federal Bureau of Investigation on civil rights cases was comparable to Hitler's use of the Gestapo.
Why are we reading in Thurmond's obit about something he didn't say--other than because Clymer wants to remind us that he was on the same side as the guy who did say it?

15 posted on 06/28/2003 12:06:53 AM PDT by AJ Insider
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To: AJ Insider
"I imagine they've been sharpening their knives for Thurmond for years, and this is just a small sampling of what we'll get when Reagan passes away."

No doubt.

But I'll bet Robert Byrd will get a glowing revue from "The Washinton Post" as a towering bastion of freedom and hope for minoritys.

Go figure.

16 posted on 06/28/2003 12:20:30 AM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Keith in Iowa
"When "Sheets" Byrd meets his maker, I bet there won't be any mention of his KKK membership."

You can bet on that.

17 posted on 06/28/2003 12:26:36 AM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: blackbart.223
No mention of his "White N-word" comment will be made either... heck, Thurmond's NYT obit mentioned the Russell thing while all of his obits were sure to include comments made by Trent Lott. If liberals were held to that standard, the headline would be "Robert Byrd, Klansman, dead"
18 posted on 06/28/2003 12:31:37 AM PDT by AJ Insider
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To: AJ Insider
Oh, wait until Ronald Reagan dies. You will see some real ugliness then.
19 posted on 06/28/2003 12:33:21 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: blackbart.223
I wonder how these same a$$wipes will eulogize Robert Byrd (a known Klan member) when he kicks the bucket.

Perhaps they could "illuminate" his cross.

20 posted on 06/28/2003 12:43:11 AM PDT by Roscoe
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