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The Shroud's Second Image: New evidence reopens debate about the controversial relic
Christianity Today ^ | 12/15/04 | Gordon Govier

Posted on 12/16/2004 7:22:10 AM PST by ZGuy

The shroud of turin was widely dismissed as a medieval forgery after radiocarbon tests in 1988 dated it to the 13th or 14th century. Now a growing body of evidence is calling for reassessment of the shroud, which is kept in Turin, Italy.

The latest item comes from the London-based Journal of Optics, published by the Institute of Physics. Two scientists from the University of Padua, Giulio Fanti and Roberto Maggiolo, report in the journal's April edition the discovery of a heretofore-undetected reverse image on the shroud. They say the smaller, fainter image on the back of the cloth depicts just the face and hands. And it's a superficial image, adhering only to the outermost fibers, just like the image on the front. "It is extremely difficult to make a fake with these features," Fanti writes.

The fact that their study was published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal is significant and "a step in the right direction", says Barrie Schwortz, editor of Shroud.com. This is one of the most comprehensive of the many websites devoted to the phenomenon.

Schwortz, who is Jewish, was a shroud skeptic until he served as a photographer for the 1978 Shroud of Turin Research Project (STURP). The five-day project was the most intensive investigation in the history of the image. Besides providing the first public viewing of the media age, the project reinforced the shroud's cachet as a truly unique religious icon.

But then, 10 years later, came the much-heralded carbon-14 tests, confirmed by three laboratories, dating the cloth to the Middle Ages. "It was like dropping an h-bomb, and seeing how long it takes life to come back," says Gary Habermas, chair of the department of philosophy and theology at Liberty University, who has coauthored two books on the shroud.

Science vs. Science While most people concluded the shroud had been discredited, some significant questions have been raised. One of the main questions was whether the samples chosen came from an area of the shroud that was repaired.

"What if we can prove that the carbon dating didn't sample the original shroud but a rewoven area?" Schwortz asks.

He is awaiting word from another scientific journal, which is currently reviewing a paper on a chemical analysis by a sturp colleague. That colleague, Raymond Rogers, a retired fellow of the Los Alamos National Laboratory, claims the carbon-14 tests were done on a dyed piece of medieval-era linen and cotton. He theorizes the cloth came from an undocumented repair of the shroud. On April 9, 2004, National Geographic suggested that the test samples came from a patch repaired during the Middle Ages.

"It's a case of science vs. science, not faith vs. science," Habermas says. But until they're officially discredited, he says the carbon-14 tests are still the most powerful objection to the validity of the shroud.

Paul Maier, a professor of ancient history at Western Michigan University and an expert on early Christianity, says, "The paper trail doesn't go back far enough." The specific history of the shroud goes back only to the 14th century. "I tend to think something as important as this would've had more attestation [because] the early church was interested in hard objects [connected to the faith]."

Habermas still has doubts about the shroud. But he counters that there are a half-dozen images of Jesus on coins and paintings dating to around the sixth century that bear a remarkable congruency to the face on the shroud.

Some researchers have linked the shroud with reports of an image of Christ discovered hidden in the city walls of the Turkish city of Edessa in the sixth century. The image reportedly was later taken to Constantinople, where it disappeared in 1204.

Pollen from plants native to Turkey and Israel turned up on pieces of sticky tape that the late Swiss criminologist Max Frei had pressed onto the shroud. In recent years two Israeli scientists, Hebrew University botanist Avinoam Danin and Israel Antiquities Authority pollenologist Uri Baruch, said they confirmed Frei's pollen evidence. Danin also claimed to have found images of flowers, unique to Israel, in the shroud.

Quality Material Since sturp, the closest examination of the shroud occurred in 2002. A Swiss textile expert, Mechthild Flury-Lemberg, remounted the shroud. She replaced a backing dating from 1534.

Flury-Lemberg said she discovered a stitching pattern on the shroud similar to the hem of a cloth found in first-century Jewish tombs at Masada. She said the weave's three-to-one herringbone pattern was authentic for a first-century cloth of unusually fine quality.

Two Israeli archaeologists announced in 1997 that they believed the shroud could not be 2,000 years old because a garment could not last intact for 20 centuries (ct, Oct. 27, 1997, p. 100). About three years later, however, archaeologist Shimon Gibson discovered shroud-wrapped remains in a tomb in Jerusalem's Hinnom Valley. Although this shroud was in tatters, it was submitted to one of the same laboratories that handled the Turin shroud. Scientists dated Gibson's shroud to the first half of the first century, making the tomb occupant a contemporary of Jesus.

Gibson's discovery was largely unheralded. But late last year Gibson released the results of the tests, which showed the tomb occupant had died of Hansen's disease. The shroud had covered the oldest confirmed remains of a leprosy victim.

Like Mel Gibson's movie, The Passion of the Christ, the shroud opens a window into the hearts of those who view it. "There is only one person it could've wrapped, even though science could never prove who it wrapped," Schwortz says. "The biggest irony of my life is that I spend most of my time trying to convince Christians that the shroud is authentic. God does have a great sense of humor."

Gordon Govier is the host and executive producer of The Book & the Spade, a weekly radio program focusing on biblical archaeology.


TOPICS: History; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: holyface; shroud; shroudofturin; sudarium; turin
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1 posted on 12/16/2004 7:22:11 AM PST by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy

God laughs all the way through time (time is only an idea in the mind of God)!


2 posted on 12/16/2004 7:34:46 AM PST by ex-Texan (Si triste trop mauvais. Revoyez-vous !)
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To: ZGuy

Is shroudie still around?


3 posted on 12/16/2004 7:42:30 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: ZGuy

I'm sure being caught in a fire in the middle ages had absolutely no affect on the carbon dating...


4 posted on 12/16/2004 8:13:52 AM PST by mike182d
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To: ZGuy

The onion keeps getting peeled.


5 posted on 12/16/2004 8:18:52 AM PST by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: ZGuy; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ..

Fact:  The bloodstains are from real human blood. Different scientists working independently conducted immunological, fluorescence and spectrographic tests, as well as Rh and ABO typing of blood antigens that prove it beyond any doubt. And several experts in forensic medicine and blood chemistry conclude that the stains were formed by real human bleeding from real wounds on a real human body that came into direct contact with the cloth. Many of the stains have the distinctive forensic signature of clotting with red corpuscles about the edge of the clot and a clear yellowish halo of serum.

There is wide agreement that the bloodstains are from a man laying on his back with his feet at one end of the 14-foot linen cloth. The cloth was brought up over the man’s head to cover his face and the entire length of his body down to his feet. Bloodstains on one part of the cloth indicate a serious wound to the chest. The patterns of these stains show that blood likely flowed from the chest area, down the side of a prone body and pooled near the lower back. Mingled with the large bloodstains in this area are stains from what pathologists believe are clear bodily fluid, perhaps pericardial fluid or fluid from the pleural sac or pleural cavity. All of these findings suggest that the man received a postmortem stabbing wound in the vicinity of the heart.

The Shroud of Turin Story - A Guide to the Facts

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


6 posted on 12/16/2004 11:05:23 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: NYer
Could someone please address the shroud and John 20: 3-7? Many believe the shroud is not authentic not due to scientific analysis, but because scripture says that His head was wrapped in a separate cloth :

3So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb. 4Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5He bent over and looked in at the strips of linen lying there but did not go in. 6Then Simon Peter, who was behind him, arrived and went into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, 7as well as the burial cloth that had been around Jesus' head. The cloth was folded up by itself, separate from the linen.

Thanks

7 posted on 12/16/2004 11:14:42 AM PST by ZGuy
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To: escapefromboston; shroudie

>>Is shroudie still around?<<

Let's try a ping!

(I hope so!)


8 posted on 12/16/2004 11:25:24 AM PST by netmilsmom (Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
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To: ZGuy
The Shroud never ceases to amaze.

Other miraculous phenomena:

Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano
Blood of St. Januarius
The Tilma of Guadalupe
Incorrupt bodies of the saints
Fatima
Shroud of Turin
Sudarium of Oviedo

9 posted on 12/16/2004 11:27:11 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: ZGuy
scripture says that His head was wrapped in a separate cloth

That seems to be the Sudarium of Oviedo. Matching bloodstains and bloodtype.

Same bloodtype as the the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano too.

10 posted on 12/16/2004 11:32:00 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan

I know they matched bloodtype (AB), but why not do a DNA test also?


11 posted on 12/16/2004 11:45:42 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: jwfiv

Shroud ping.


12 posted on 12/16/2004 11:48:02 AM PST by Serb5150 (Christlich leben selig sterben ist das beste das wir erben.)
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To: Aquinasfan
scripture says that His head was wrapped in a separate cloth

Wasn't it common for crucified victims to have their faces covered, on the cross or scafold, with a cloth after their death for possibly religious reasons?

13 posted on 12/16/2004 12:11:41 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: ZGuy
He saw the strips of linen lying there, 7as well as the burial cloth that had been around Jesus' head. The cloth was folded up by itself, separate from the linen.

I believe you are referring to the Sudarium. This cloth was placed about the man's head while he was still in a vertical position, presumably before he was removed from the cross. It was then removed before the Shroud was placed over the man's face.

One of the relics held by the cathedral in the town of Oviedo, in the north of Spain, is a piece of cloth measuring approximately 84 x 53 cm. There is no image on this cloth. Only stains are visible to the naked eye, although more is visible under the microscope. The remarkable thing about this cloth is that both tradition and scientific studies claim that the cloth was used to cover and clean the face of Jesus after the crucifixion.

The history of the sudarium is well documented, and much more straightforward than that of the Shroud. Most of the information comes from the twelfth century bishop of Oviedo, Pelagius (or Pelayo), whose historical works are the Book of the Testaments of Oviedo, and the Chronicon Regum Legionensium.

According to this history, the sudarium was in Palestine until shortly before the year 614, when Jerusalem was attacked and conquered by Chosroes II, who was king of Persia from 590 to 628. It was taken away to avoid destruction in the invasion, first to Alexandria by the presbyter Philip, then across the north of Africa when Chosroes conquered Alexandria in 616. The sudarium entered Spain at Cartagena, along with people who were fleeing from the Persians. The bishop of Ecija, Fulgentius, welcomed the refugees and the relics, and surrendered the chest, or ark, to Leandro, bishop of Seville. He took it to Seville, where it spent some years.

Hence, both cloths - the Sudarium and the Shroud - have survived since that glorious day when Christ rose from the dead.

14 posted on 12/16/2004 12:14:43 PM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: escapefromboston
I know they matched bloodtype (AB), but why not do a DNA test also?

Don't know. I'm guessing that it's because access to these sacred objects by scientists is severely limited.

15 posted on 12/16/2004 12:19:56 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: frog_jerk_2004
Wasn't it common for crucified victims to have their faces covered, on the cross or scafold, with a cloth after their death for possibly religious reasons?

Don't know about the headcloth. I do know that the practice of laying the body of the deceased in one long linen cloth was a Jewish burial custom at the time of Christ.

16 posted on 12/16/2004 12:21:38 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: ZGuy
Could someone please address the shroud and John 20: 3-7? Many believe the shroud is not authentic not due to scientific analysis, but because scripture says that His head was wrapped in a separate cloth :

I'm thinking that the blood soaked through. Blood does that.

17 posted on 12/16/2004 12:24:53 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Aquinasfan
[lightbulb effect]

Thank you!

New insight -- The sudarium was wrapped around Jesus' head on the cross and then removed, set aside and left in the tomb when he was wrapped with the shroud during burial. Prior to this I had understood the passage to mean that Jesus had two separate wrappings while in the tomb, and that didn't fit with the shroud at all.

18 posted on 12/16/2004 12:29:07 PM PST by ZGuy
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To: Aquinasfan

I kind of hope the shourd is real, but can't be sure.

As for DNA tests, I heard (from someone on FR I think) that testing was being done. Quit frankly I hope not.


19 posted on 12/16/2004 12:33:02 PM PST by redgolum (Molon labe)
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To: frog_jerk_2004; Aquinasfan; ZGuy
Wasn't it common for crucified victims to have their faces covered, on the cross or scafold, with a cloth after their death for possibly religious reasons?


How the sudarium was wrapped around the head

The experiments with the model head and the study of the stains also show that when the man died his head was tilted seventy degrees forward and twenty degrees to the right. This position further suggests that the man whose face the sudarium covered died crucified.

There are smaller bloodstains at the side of the main group. It would appear that the sudarium was pinned to the back of the dead man's head, and that these spots of blood were from small sharp objects, which would logically be the thorns that caused this type of injury all over Jesus' head.

The medical studies are not the only ones that have been carried out on the sudarium. Dr. Max Frei analysed pollen samples taken from the cloth, and found species typical of Oviedo, Toledo, North Africa and Jerusalem. This confirms the historical route described earlier. There was nothing relating the cloth to Constantinople, France, Italy or any other country in Europe.

An international congress was held in Oviedo in 1994, where various papers were presented about the sudarium. Dr. Frei's work with pollen was confirmed, and enlarged on. Species of pollen called "quercus caliprimus" were found, both of which are limited to the area of Palestine.

Residues of what is most probably myrrh and aloe have also been discovered, mentioned directly in the gospel of john, 19:39-40, "Nicodemus came as well...and he brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes...They took the body of Jesus and bound it in linen cloths with the spices, following the Jewish burial custom."

The stains were also studied from the point of view of anthropology. The conclusion was that the face that had been in contact with the sudarium had typically Jewish features, a prominent nose and pronounced cheekbones.

Finally, the very fact that the cloth was kept at all is a sign of its authenticity, as it has no artistic or monetary value at all. All the studies carried out so far point in one direction, with nothing to suggest the contrary the sudarium was used to cover the head of the dead body of Jesus of Nazareth from when he was taken down from the cross until he was buried.

3: Coincidence with the Shroud

The sudarium alone has revealed sufficient information to suggest that it was in contact with the face of Jesus after the crucifixion. However, the really fascinating evidence comes to light when this cloth is compared to the Shroud of Turin.

The first and most obvious coincidence is that the blood on both cloths belongs to the same group, namely AB.

The length of the nose through which the pleural oedema fluid came onto the sudarium has been calculated at eight centimetres, just over three inches. This is exactly the same length as the nose on the image of the Shroud.

If the face of the image on the Shroud is placed over the stains on the sudarium, perhaps the most obvious coincidence is the exact fit of the stains with the beard on the face. As the sudarium was used to clean the man's face, it appears that it was simply placed on the face to absorb all the blood, but not used in any kind of wiping movement.

A small stain is also visible proceeding from the right hand side of the man's mouth. This stain is hardly visible on the Shroud, but Dr. John Jackson, using the VP-8 and photo enhancements has confirmed its presence.

The thorn wounds on the nape of the neck also coincide perfectly with the bloodstains on the Shroud.

Source: The Sudarium of Oviedo

20 posted on 12/16/2004 12:46:22 PM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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