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1 posted on 06/09/2014 5:07:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Can you explain to me why Pope Francis referred to Palestine as a state, when the Lord has promised to enter into judgment with the people who divide up His land (Joel 3:2)?

I think that was Mrs. Glick's main complaint with the Pope, that he acknowledged Judea and Samaria as Palestine, not Israel.

2 posted on 06/09/2014 5:18:09 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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Do you believe in the dual covenant theory; that Jews need not convert to achieve salvation?


4 posted on 06/09/2014 5:41:04 PM PDT by ebb tide
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He was echoing the teaching of Nostra Aetate and Pope Benedict that “the Church of the Gentiles is like a wild olive shoot, grafted onto the good olive tree that is the people of the Covenant (Romans 11:17-24).

Not even close...The Jew of the old covenant have a promise of the land that God gave them and a physical Kingdom with a reigning King...

The NEW covenant is a spiritual covenant of a Kingdom in heaven...When Jews come under the new covenant, they are no longer Jews...They are Christians...When we Gentiles are grated in to the tree, we are no longer Gentiles...We are Christians...

The Jewish Christians are not Israel...They are in Jesus Christ, the root of the tree...We Gentiles as well become adopted sons/daughters of the root of the tree, Christians, not Israel...

Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Christians are not Israel...Unbelieving Israel is still Israel...Believing Israel is Christian...

As the scripture says, the two (saved Israel and saved Gentile) have become one NEW man...And this new man is the church, the body of Christ...Built upon the foundation of Jesus and the Apostles...

God is not done with unbelieving Israel...Therefore we can not be Israel...

38 posted on 06/09/2014 10:05:51 PM PDT by Iscool
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Everyone please kindly remember that by "anti-Semitism" the Vatican means politically incorrect ethnic bigotry and that by "pro-Jewish" it means liberal, relativistic, and ecumenical. This is the only kind of "philo-Semitism" the Vatican knows, since it regards the presence of Jews in Israel (as the literal rather than "spiritual" fulfillment of Messianic prophecies) to be highly undesirable.

The philo-Semitism of Fundamentalist Protestants is built upon false premises, but it is still far preferable to the loony liberalism the Vatican endorses as an antidote to anti-Semitism.

43 posted on 06/11/2014 4:17:12 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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