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To: Marchmain
I once read a 750 page book by Hans Kung titled "Does God exist?"

He offered up argument after argument attempting to prove God exists. Only to counter each with a skeptic's view.

In the end, he decided that the only way to know that God exists is to have a personal encounter with Him.

I disagree, the evidence is around us in all creation including our wonderfully made bodies and the intricate mechanics of even a single cell. Proof is also in the prophecies, some of which have come true recently with the restoration of Israel. And there is evidence of miracles.

I can't refute the logic of his arguments. Someone who wants to remain a skeptic will find a way. For that person, a personal encounter may be the only solution, and even then they may choose to remain skeptical.

5 posted on 04/06/2021 12:07:23 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

He knows now......................


7 posted on 04/06/2021 12:11:30 PM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: DannyTN

“Someone who wants to remain a skeptic will find a way. For that person, a personal encounter may be the only solution, and even then they may choose to remain skeptical.”

Three true statements.

I wonder why God chooses one person and not another for an encounter.


10 posted on 04/06/2021 12:17:50 PM PDT by dsc (Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito.)
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To: DannyTN

Definitely YEP!


11 posted on 04/06/2021 12:23:49 PM PDT by caprock (from the flats of SE New Mexico)
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To: DannyTN

I have not taken time to become acquainted with Kung’s theology, but have come across some exotic, esoteric notions that somehow gain more currency than they ought. Over time it has become more clear to me that the clearest manifestation of the Church is in a local parish where the Sacred Scriptures are read aloud in the midst of a congregation and the hearers are brought under the discipline of the same, conducting themselves with both joy and humility, while putting away malice and envy.


12 posted on 04/06/2021 12:39:35 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No audit. No peace.)
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To: DannyTN; MHGinTN; Mark17
I once read a 750 page book by Hans Kung titled "Does God exist?"
He offered up argument after argument attempting to prove God exists. Only to counter each with a skeptic's view.

I'm afraid your post shows your ignorance of the theological position that at the Fall, Adam's/a human's ability to reason also fell along with the human nature, and thus was unable to discover The God's Truth--including His Pre-Creation Existence--by reason alone, a facility apart from the disclosures of His Special Revelation.

Romanism was falling badly as a force for good until Thomas Aquinas took opposition to the idea that the ability of a man or mankind in general to reason correctly was lost, and instead proposed that the ability to come to unarguable conclusion as to The God's Existence had not been lost, and that the exercise of reason wold restore the Roman Church's claimed Holy Eminence that had somehow gone missing.

And so Romanism has swallowed that Aquinian approach hook, line, and sinker, and has proceeded on that theme ever since, particularly in the Jesuit manifestation. And because of it, found themselves oppositionally rebellious to the better theology of the Gospel of Faith Alone in the Incarnated, Specially Revealed Word of God Alone, through His Grace Alone, received by the preaching of His Written Word Alone, to save and reconcile a human to fellowship with His Father, and to be made judicially guiltless by that complete unreserved irreversible child-like trust in Jesus Messiah as Everlasting Owner, Lord, and Proprietor of that reconciled human, sanctified through progressive control of the Indwelling Holy Spirit to and through suppression and physical death of the old nature.

Perhaps through immersion in the Holy Word, and change by faith obtained from it, Hans Kung had become yet another rejector of the Aquinian false religion, voicing his opposition to it as did the Reformers guided by the Byzantine/Majority Greek texts that had been restored to prominence by Desiderius Erasmus (the true father of the Reformation), and no longer distracted by the uninspired erring Latin Vulgate interpretation or its child--the RCC Catechistic dogmatic published formulae. Eh?

What you need to realize that since the time of Aquinas, uninspired use of natural reason and its logic--though profoundly increasing the magnitude of human knowledge--has nonetheless led mankind away from God and into atheism and greater depravity, recognizing neither an eternal spiritual realm nor the soul-destroying dangers of ignoring it.

And that's where your line of thinking leads the unwary and foolish person who professes Christianity but does not possess it and is not permeated by its change of character nor the processing of one's experiences according to Gods unchangeable point of view rather than by the fickleness of human reasoning.

15 posted on 04/06/2021 7:53:25 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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