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To: Carpe Cerevisi

Read th NT book of Ephesians for the Bible’s authoritative teaching on the NY church. You will find no priests, no incense, no icons, no cult of the saints. Without the Bible as your “plumb line” you will not recognize Christ’s design and plan for his ‘ekklesia,’ or ‘called assembly.’. All the liturgical churches base their religious exercise on Fifth not First century practices, and thus imported many residual pagan practices of the waning Roman empire. Ortgidoxy (maintainin upright glory literally) distinctive is “We have the original recipe.”. My loving reply is the Bible, and the first Century practices of the early church described in Acts are to be our guide.


7 posted on 01/11/2022 10:16:34 AM PST by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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To: Srednik

You wouldn’t have a Bible at all if it weren’t for those “liturgical churches”. They preserved it for you through all those centuries when there was no printing and little literacy.


14 posted on 01/11/2022 12:54:36 PM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Srednik
Read th NT book of Ephesians for the Bible’s authoritative teaching on the NY church. You will find no priests, no incense, no icons, no cult of the saints. Without the Bible as your “plumb line” you will not recognize Christ’s design and plan for his ‘ekklesia,’ or ‘called assembly.’....

Putting aside for the moment that biblically, Aaron, the First Levitical PRIEST, whom God COMMANDED of to BURN INCENSE every morning, and that, ironically, St. Paul starts out writing to your Ephesians by referring to them AS SAINTS ”being in Ephesus”… just putting that aside for now….

Do you really want to use the Church at Ephesus as something to plumb with your Bible? The Church of Ephesus, the very one in Revelation…? You really suggest that Church, should be the "authoritative" standard bearer for plumbing one's "ekklesial" faith?
I'm just asking to think about that...
15 posted on 01/11/2022 2:48:25 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("For as often as you shall eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord")
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To: Srednik; Carpe Cerevisi

hmmm, Średnik - why are you only look at the book of Ephesians?

Look at the book of the Apocalypse of St. John i.e. Revelation.

In the book of Revelation, we start with a Divine Liturgy, it moves to the Divine Eucharist and ends with a blessing - it is a liturgical book.

In that book you have priests, incense, saints.


16 posted on 01/12/2022 4:32:16 AM PST by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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To: Srednik; Carpe Cerevisi

hmmm, Średnik - why are you only look at the book of Ephesians?

Look at the book of the Apocalypse of St. John i.e. Revelation.

In the book of Revelation, we start with a Divine Liturgy, it moves to the Divine Eucharist and ends with a blessing - it is a liturgical book.

In that book you have priests, incense, saints.

Also, well, priests, incense, saints are part and parcel of the Bible, not just non-Judaic religions.


17 posted on 01/12/2022 4:33:36 AM PST by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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To: Srednik

Any religion that disappeared for 1200 to 1800 years and has to be restored like a dinosaur skeleton was never true to begin with.


20 posted on 01/12/2022 7:11:43 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Secularism is a fraud and a failure.)
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