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To: unlearner

It’s hardly wishing. There’s at least a dozen verses which I have posted to you and other deniers ad nauseum over and over again.

Lastly, for you to lump the PreTrib in with Prosperity Gospel is massively naive and shows your lack of attention to the theology of those who agree doctrinally with this Eschatology.

Max Lucado and Rick Warren are both apostate heretics who may agree with it, but the rest of their teachings are not something I would ever agree with.


17 posted on 03/31/2023 1:13:02 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“It’s hardly wishing. There’s at least a dozen verses which I have posted to you and other deniers ad nauseum over and over again.”

I would encourage you to save a copy then and continue to post them if you think they make your case. However, from my experience, no matter how many verses, no matter how many times, none of them explicitly teach a pre-trib rapture. None of them disprove a pre-wrath rapture.

“Lastly, for you to lump the PreTrib in with Prosperity Gospel is massively naive and shows your lack of attention to the theology of those who agree doctrinally with this Eschatology.”

I’m not accusing those with the pre-trib view of buying into the Prosperity Gospel. I’m just saying that the pre-trib view is more consistent with that error than the true Gospel of Grace. I’m not trying to belittle or insult. I’m only trying to provoke thought on the subjects. I find the pre-wrath position very aligned with my understanding of the Gospel. We see it very plainly in the letters to the Thessalonians. They received the Gospel while seeing their preacher(s) suffering for the Gospel. They understood suffering came with faith in Christ. They also understood they were being rescued from wrath, not tribulation, persecution, and affliction. Further, when there was confusion over the trials they went through and the suffering they associated with the Day of the Lord, Paul corrected this.

“Max Lucado and Rick Warren are both apostate heretics who may agree with it, but the rest of their teachings are not something I would ever agree with.”

I don’t follow the teaching of these men and am generally unfamiliar with their teachings. Either way, I’m not trying to lump pre-trib rapture advocates with false teachers. I am greatly blessed by many teachers who hold the pre-trib view. But I’d say it is despite this view rather than in any way because of it. Likewise, I think the post-trib view is even worse, but a man like John Piper who holds this view may make many contributions to the understanding of scripture and encouragement to live godly.


21 posted on 03/31/2023 6:18:19 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America. July 4, 1776 - December 13, 2022. )
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