[RnMomof7]

Unless a man is Born again He can not see the kingdom of God...For discussion

[RnMomof7]

Bump

[hupo ekcheo charis]

grace bump!

pas pisteur hoti lesous esti Christos gennao ek theos

"Game, set, and match" for that gospel affectionately known by the grace men as Calvinism.

Cheers,

"under shed grace"

[ThomasMore]

FIRST, Only by an outward profession. And in this sense, every one that is called a Christian, or baptized into Christ's church, may be said to be in Christ. But that this is not the sole meaning of the apostle's phrase before us, is evident, because then, every one that names the name of Christ, or is baptized into his visible church, would be a new creature. Which is notoriously false, it being too plain, beyond all contradiction, that comparatively but few of those that are "born of water," are "born of the Spirit" likewise; to use another spiritual way of speaking, many are baptized with water, which were never baptized with the Holy Ghost.

This is an erroneous view of regeneration. Show me any early Christian writing that agrees or promotes this view.

[CCWoody]

Accordingly the holy scriptures inform us, that whom Christ justifies, or whose sins he forgives, and to whom he imputes his perfect obedience, those he also sanctifies, purifies and cleanses, and totally changeth their corrupted natures. As the scripture also speaketh in another place, "Christ is to us justification, sanctification, and then redemption."

Now, I wonder where Whitfield would get an idea like that. Accordingly the holy scriptures inform us, that whom Christ justifies,... he imputes his perfect obedience...

[vmatt]

1 John 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

Most Christians are admitted sinners therefore one may discern they are not heard by nor born of God by their own admission.