[Jerry_M]

Yep, men cannot be saved without the new birth. Note, however, that this in no way invalidates the Scriptural command that all men should repent of their sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. You are correct that they ever will do this without the saving work of God's Spirit.

[RnMomof7]

There is an enormous amount of misreading scripture Jerry.Who seeks? Who knocks ? Mucho confusion:>))

[winstonchurchill]

this in no way invalidates the Scriptural command that all men should repent of their sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. You are correct that they ever will do this without the saving work of God's Spirit.

Back to the old shell game. "All men should repent" but only a few can do so (i.e. are capable of doing so) because God prevents the others from repenting because he damned them, yada, yada, yada. How Clintonian.

The distinction is not that they will "[n]ever will do this without the saving work of God's Spirit" but that you guys say that saving work just isn't available to them. Too bad for them.

I realize this is the age of euphemisms, but why not be intellectually honest enough to simply state your view and let everyone see it for what it is.