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To: AgThorn
Why don't we want it? Because we don't want to live in a police state, that's why. Check the aliens more carefully at the borders, where the INS has miserably failed due to lack of resources, PC, and other problems. Leave us law-abiding citizens alone. These ID cards would not have prevented 9/11, but a more vigilant INS would have.

Why is it that the solution to every problem caused by uncivilized people is to put more restrictions and regulations on the civilized? The difficulty of obtaining a reasonable firearm for self-protection by an average, law-abiding citizen is just one example.

10 posted on 10/18/2001 7:53:15 AM PDT by Gordian Blade
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To: Gordian Blade
Why is it that the solution to every problem caused by uncivilized people is to put more restrictions and regulations on the civilized?

Why are you looking at this as "half full" ... look at it as a quick and easy way to identify who ISN'T a citizen.... we sure can't rely on our border patrol to do this.

The difficulty of obtaining a reasonable firearm for self-protection by an average, law-abiding citizen is just one example.

And I am with you on that one ... I would rather flash my "I am a citizen" ID to buy a guy than to have to go through a thumbprint registration and 30 day wait just because we don't have such a system. Not that these two extemes have been tied in any way .....

48 posted on 10/18/2001 9:16:23 AM PDT by AgThorn
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To: Gordian Blade
Why don't we want it? Because we don't want to live in a police state, that's why.

And a National ID (something between a drivers license and a passport) will make this a police state because ....?

Why do all the "chicken little" reasons why NOT to do this end up with purely emotion rather than any sort of logic in their arguements?

Look, I am speaking strickly as a business traveler who is finding that getting to the airport 3 hours earlier because we DON'T have any sort of national way of ID checking much more closer to living in a "police state" than I want as well ... so get out side and check out what is happening to the economy ... partly because of such emotional arguements that have no basis in fact.

Check the aliens more carefully at the borders, where the INS has miserably failed due to lack of resources,

Exactly ... it has failed .... should we hire thousands more to police these huge borders of ours? is that what other countries do? Perhaps putting up barbed wire would be better than actually having an ID ... sheesh ... let's get real guys. Reality says that our border will always be difficult to patrol.

Leave us law-abiding citizens alone. These ID cards would not have prevented 9/11, but a more vigilant INS would have.

A better way of ID'ing who is and who isn't a citizen is a realistic way of fixing our INS problem ..... not more manpower and more barbed wire.

59 posted on 10/18/2001 9:23:56 AM PDT by AgThorn
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