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To: AgThorn
I am no fan of Ellison, but all the noise being made "against" national ID's have yet to make one good point other than basically "I don't want it".

Nonsense. Several people have made the excellent points that: 1)It simply can't work (no suicide bomber is going to give a flip whether or not his identity is known), 2)It starts a slippery slope of tax intrusions, gun-ownership intrusions, etc, and 3)This is just a way for Ellison to move his lips from Clintoon's @$$ to the taxpayer's teat.

16 posted on 10/18/2001 8:13:44 AM PDT by steve-b
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Nonsense. Several people have made the excellent points that: 1)It simply can't work (no suicide bomber is going to give a flip whether or not his identity is known),

And how did the "suicide bomber" get into the country to steal the airport in the first place? How would he get on the plane without showing his National ID or passport?

Sorry, no valid arguement there ...

2)It starts a slippery slope of tax intrusions, gun-ownership intrusions, etc, and

Does a passport do this? does your drivers license do this? not at all ... just silly conspiracy theorists say this. The simple fact is that since we have 50+ different drivers licenses as our form of ID, we are subject to intrusion. We do not require passports for ID, which is done often in Europe;
We do not have a national ID, which works well in South America and Europe and other countries who have dealt with terrorist long before we have

"Chicken little" arguements don't wash ... give us real arguements why what has already been proven to work elsewhere won't work here ....

3)This is just a way for Ellison to move his lips from Clintoon's @$$ to the taxpayer's teat.

Now that's the first real valid arguement you listed! ;-)

69 posted on 10/18/2001 9:37:45 AM PDT by AgThorn
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