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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Finally, someone tells the truth about all these feel-good fantasies.

Being an engineer who passed through my "Mother Earth News" days in the 70's, I have tried much of this stuff on a small scale. The only one of these schemes that actually has some benefit is solar hot water, and then only in the right climate.

This latest "hydrogen economy" is probably the biggest hoax yet. Until three years ago, I was involved in filling the space shuttle external tank with a few million gallons of liquid hydrogen, so I have some knowledge in that area, too.

I can only begin to list all the safety hazards of dealing with LH2.

I can't wait to see the first auto accident involving a "clean-burning" hydrogen-powered vehicle. It will make those car bombs in Israel look like childs toys. Then the feds will mandate that all drivers wear flame-retardent coveralls, leather gloves, and non-sparking footwear, I'd guess.
9 posted on 03/24/2002 3:05:00 AM PST by snopercod
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To: snopercod
I think the current popular support for fuel cell technology is idiotic. Nuclear and fossil fuels are our current best bets for power generation.

Sometimes, however, renewable technologies can be employed locally for good effect--low head hydrodynamic is the best example which pops to mind.

23 posted on 03/24/2002 4:00:18 AM PST by dinodino
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To: snopercod
"I can only begin to list all the safety hazards of dealing with LH2."

Don't forget that it is 11 times less dense (as a liquid) than plain old gasoline. It delivers 3 times as much energy per pound but that still leaves you 11/3 = 3.6 times LESS efficient (volumetrically) than gas. In other words, for the same range your fuel tank must be almost 4 times larger.

If you try to use compressed hydrogen gas, it becomes even more absurd.

--Boris

38 posted on 03/24/2002 5:44:51 AM PST by boris
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To: snopercod
I can only begin to list all the safety hazards of dealing with LH2.

Tell you what...let's run a few "issue ads" featuring the average soccer mom and her kids entering an SUV. Rapidly intersperse video of the HINDENBURG disaster. Then show pics of the "after" condition of the kids at WACO.

Then the voiceover about "CRISPY CRITTERS". End with "The HYDROGEN Economy...it's a BAD idea!!!

66 posted on 03/24/2002 5:11:23 PM PST by Lael
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