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Conservatives usually do better than the me-too Republicans in elections, yet Conservatives have to struggle on two fronts, against both the dems and their own pathetic, limp leadership. Just think how much better it would be to have a party made up entirely of conservatives in the leadership.
1 posted on 04/14/2002 9:33:53 AM PDT by Korth
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To: Korth; goldstategop;Ernest at the Beach
Both Rove and Parsky need to go, if only because they would sabotage the best chance we have had to elect a Republican conservative candidatate in California since Reagan. They would rather be "right" than win. Rove doesn't run the CRP. We in California need to do the flushing when it comes to Parsky.

Ping away in Ernest!

2 posted on 04/14/2002 9:43:27 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Korth
Hoping for the California's governor madison, but not getting my hopes up too high. It would be a great PR for the Republican Party if California could be won.
4 posted on 04/14/2002 9:55:14 AM PDT by afuturegovernor
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To: Korth
The first strike against Parksy is that he is too liberal for many Californian Republicans--who tend to be conservative. A second strike against him is that he was forcibly imposed on the California party by outsiders, namely by Karl Rove. A third strike against him is that he has already proven himself to be an incompetent fool by backing that pathetic loser, Riordan.

If Rove had managed to come in from outside, shake up the California Republican establishment, and make it better, fine. More power to him. But clearly he changed things for the worse. Most of California's problem in the first place came from Pete Wilson. You won't solve that by backing more Pete Wilsons.

The country club Republicans have the money and the conservative Republicans have the votes. If they want to beat Gray Davis, they had better learn how to work together. Mainly, that means that the country clubbers have to give something, especially their insistence on pro-abortion, big-tent gibberish. Otherwise, the rank and file will walk, and Davis will easily be re-elected. Davis is vulnerable, but he will not be defeated unless the Republicans run an effective campaign.

What is there about this that Karl Rove doesn't understand? Either he backs Simon, and backs him wholeheartedly, and sends Bush in to raise money for him, or he will lose California. It's as simple as that. There's plenty of reason to think that Parksy is incapable of doing the job.

8 posted on 04/14/2002 10:24:48 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: Korth
WHO IS PARSKY?
10 posted on 04/14/2002 11:07:00 AM PDT by Jimbaugh
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To: Korth
If this story is true (and Novak loves to bash Bush, so it may not be accurate), then Bush (Rove) would appear to be feverishly building the political scaffold from which GWB's hopes for a second term will be prominently hung for all to mock.

Lose only one of these three: California, Texas, or Florida -- and kiss a second term good-bye! (And, who can argue that it doesn't help to have a Republican Governor in charge come election time!)

13 posted on 04/14/2002 11:42:18 AM PDT by BenR2
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To: Korth
Guarrantee Rowe was behind Bush signing CFR and I bet he came up will that dumbass "on the backs of the porr " BS or at least approved it
18 posted on 04/14/2002 1:23:28 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Korth
WHO RUNS CALIFORNIA?

Vicente Fox.

20 posted on 04/14/2002 1:56:31 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Korth

To all posters on this thread: Do you people seriously believe Novak?! I don't know when the man last had anything positive to say about any Republican. Somewhere along the way, Novak has turned into a sour, rather mean old man whose "reporting" is suspect. Perhaps when his long-time partner, Rollie Evans, died, Novak lost a significant tempering influence on his outlook.

As a Californian who is an active volunteer in local Republican politics, and who supports Simon, I can tell you there has been a long-standing divide between the center-right and hard right in this state. They spend more time squabbling amongst each other than they do uniting to defeat the increasingly hard Left Democrats who currently dominate this state's politics at every level. The differences among people on the right side of the political spectrum are vastly fewer than the differences they have with the hard Left. But they rarely get past their own internal squabbles to concentrate on winning elections. I have seen this time and time and time again in this state. Either the hard right takes a walk because a candidate is not "pure enough" on every issue. Or the center-right takes a walk because they think a candidate is "too conservative."

Simon needs EVERY Republican vote he can get, and he has to peel off lots of independents and at least some "moderate" Dems in order to have a chance of winning. But if he and his people are either unwilling to or do not know how to put together a winning coalition, he'll just go the way of so many other Republican losers in this state. Because I live here, I want to see sound conservative Republicans win lots of elections at every level. I believe it's the only hope this state has to avoid descending into a complete Leftist bannana-republic status. But I also understand that political progress comes in steps, that the battle to keep taking steps forward never ends, and that you never even obtain the power to take foward steps unless you WIN elections!!!!!!!!

23 posted on 04/14/2002 3:15:49 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: Korth
Communist?
27 posted on 04/14/2002 5:23:04 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Korth
That's been my feeling.
29 posted on 04/14/2002 7:04:55 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: Korth

Republicans that aren't 'right' should be LEFT, IMHO. The current fact that the 'California demographic' doesn't favor thinking, much less 'right thinking' does not mean we lack the 'right message'. It means we lack the 'right marketing'. How many Simon ads will be shown to the 'cableless' households, in Spanish, in the Los Angeles area? When you don't have cable, that is the bulk of stations you get. Of course, the 'rich Republicans' don't see such opportunities and thus ignore them at their 'Kalifornia' peril.

33 posted on 04/15/2002 8:19:41 AM PDT by d14truth
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To: Korth
A note to the Simon campaign: Take Parsky's money. Smile and nod when he tells you what he expects in return, then do as you bloody well please. When he complains, look concerned. Express your sympathy. Ask for more money. Repeat as necessary.
36 posted on 04/15/2002 10:07:59 AM PDT by Redcloak
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