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President Bush stumps for Bill Simon (PHOTOS)
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Posted on 04/30/2002 2:17:40 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan

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To: ElkGroveDan
The issue about Simon's tax return as far as I remember, wasn't that he wouldn't disclose his returns but couldn't. When asked how much he paid on his income tax this year, he said he didn't know how much if any he paid, same for the previous years. It made him look a little out of touch (even if an accountant does them for you, you still have to sign it, so you should know if you paid anything or not).
41 posted on 04/30/2002 4:42:42 PM PDT by houston1
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To: ElkGroveDan
2 months ago that same Field Poll had Simon up slightly over Davis. Was it not accurate then? Simon has made many missteps-- much like when Schundler made his first statewide bid for public office last year. Winning the governorship of California is very difficult-- especially for a Republican. Simon hasn't made issues of many things Davis has done. After his primary win, Simon had a chance to define himself (2 months ago people in California didn't know much about him), but Davis defined him and Simon hasn't done a good job of fighting back.
42 posted on 04/30/2002 4:45:07 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: GraniteStateConservative
2 months ago that same Field Poll had Simon up slightly over Davis. Was it not accurate then?

Two months ago Simon had just come off of a huge primary upset and his name led the news for about two weeks. At that time the couch potatos who answered the Field poll were more familiar with him.

The point is that the accurate polls have consistently shown Simon leading Davis by 4-7 points among likely voters. Because of their lazy voter ID process, the Field poll fluctuates wildly.

43 posted on 04/30/2002 4:51:38 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: daviddennis
It's big. Very big. It looks like you could fit at least three typical homes in it. And it's immaculately maintained, the type of residence you just know has a huge staff making sure it stays that way.

You will have to do better than that if you are trying to impress me. Tell me how many cars his garage will hold, how many hoist are in it and is it full of Snap On Tools and wallpapered with Nascar stuff. :- )

44 posted on 04/30/2002 5:39:34 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: isthisnickcool
Big house? Jet? What's so unusual about that?

I'm with you. Doesn't everybody have a big house and a jet?

45 posted on 04/30/2002 5:45:26 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: anniegetyourgun
I will never vote for Bush again, even though I campaigned for him, and supported him, and voted for him, and loved him, because now he has gone and done the thing I just can't forgive.

......what it is exactly, I have no idea, because I have said this about everything he's done since January 20, 2001, but..... all I know is that this is the last straw!!.

How's that for bashing? Pretty good huh?

I have paid close attention to all the bashers all over FR, and have learned a lot from them, don't you think? :o)

46 posted on 04/30/2002 5:50:20 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: Argus
You may be right. Simon's father was practically a saint, and supported Catholic charities very generously. I have heard that Bill Simon takes after the old man.
47 posted on 04/30/2002 6:02:14 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: NEWwoman
Boy, you got that right!!
48 posted on 04/30/2002 6:31:33 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: anniegetyourgun
I think we ran them off last night!!
49 posted on 04/30/2002 6:34:53 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: ElkGroveDan
Cindy Simon got an update.

We need pictures showing FReepers-- the local news showed the protesters. They mentioned the expensive plates, at least two times. Like, Davis doesn't DO expensive plates?

50 posted on 04/30/2002 6:37:19 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: ElkGroveDan
WOW!!!! Great pictures of two wonderful GOP leaders. Good luck California. Bill Simon looks great standing next to the President!!!!
51 posted on 04/30/2002 6:39:04 PM PDT by jokemoke
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To: ElkGroveDan
"Does anyone here believe that when Clinton held his fundraisers with Babs Streisand and Steven Spielberg that they drove up in old Buicks? Were they identified in the press as some of California's wealthiest Democrats? Did they glitter? What cars did they drive?

The bias isn't even veiled anymore."

Hey Dan - that's a great statement you have there - why don't you use mailblaster.com and let the media know what we're all thinking??

52 posted on 04/30/2002 6:39:08 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: let freedom sing
Looking at Davis' campaign warchest, he's done plenty of fundraising from the limousine liberals. That's one of the points I tried to raise with these goo-goos today in San Jose that the Republicans aren't any more the "party of the rich" than the DemoRATs (the richest county in America, Marin County, is heavily Demorat and gave America Senator Babs Boxer). The union thugs there were totally closed-minded about the whole argument.

BTW, I caught quick glimpes of the three FReepers there on the TV news coverage, but the overwhelming numbers prevented our message from getting out in a crowd shot. I did talk to a couple of leftist radio outlets, for what it's worth.

53 posted on 04/30/2002 6:47:12 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: ElkGroveDan
The Field poll which showed Davis ahead by 14 points is of all adults who choose to answer the telephone.

Well, if it's during the day - most of us who will be voting for future Gov. Bill Simon are AT WORK - not sitting zombied out in front of the TV, so we can CHOOSE to answer the fershlugginer phone!!!

54 posted on 04/30/2002 6:51:46 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: ElkGroveDan
Thanks for posting the pictures
More pictures, but mostly about President Bush, on an later thread:
A day in the life of President Bush (photos): 4/20/02 4/30/02
55 posted on 04/30/2002 7:05:10 PM PDT by heleny
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To: daviddennis
He has a down-home, folksy image, and he carries himself well. Can that survive people knowing he has a house of around 9,000 square feet, or that he can afford a Gulfstream jet?

While I admire his success, the majority of people can be led by whatever the media wants them to believe. If the media says, "look how filthy rich he is, how he must not care about the little people, how Davis really cares about raising taxes to help you; you should vote the dem. ticket," many people might actually believe that spin.

George W. Bush's personality, or simply the many issues in the last presidential election, kept attention away from the custom home he was building. His new home probably didn't help him gain any votes in CA. Bill Simon doesn't appear to be quite as good at deflecting attention away from unimportant issues, and Davis is much more vulnerable/desperate than Al Gore was. Davis will do anything to attack Simon.

I have the impression that this is not an image voters like. They would rather think you have an average suburban place somewhere, instead of your own Gulfstream jet.

I think that's why Simon doesn't want to release his tax returns - and I don't blame him one bit.

I think you're right. Since Simon has refused to release it, he should stay true to his word; if he later releases his tax returns, then it will appear he flip-flops on issues, or that he's uncertain or unconfident. We know Davis flip-flops on important issues (like first doing nothing about energy, and then rushing to stem the disaster); there's no reason for Simon to cave into the media provocations to act like Davis.

if there's demand, I'll post it when I get home.

I think you should keep it to yourself. If you meet other Simon supporters in-person at rallies or FReeps, perhaps you can show them, but if you post it here, you save reporters and the Davis camp all the trouble of finding it themselves if they want to portray Simon as out-of-touch.

56 posted on 04/30/2002 7:28:21 PM PDT by heleny
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To: Mo1
Dog Gone just posted that item here:

Bush Raises $4.5M in California

57 posted on 04/30/2002 7:57:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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58 posted on 04/30/2002 7:58:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: heleny; cicero; eggsackley
This is all exacerbated by the agony of California real estate prices, which just seem to get higher and higher with each passing day. (Yes, I know there have been tiresome recessions, but they feel more like pauses for breath in a relentless climb).

Davis' consistent policy has been not so much to reverse his policy on issues as to have no clear policy to reverse until he gets a 2x4 hit to his face. (Maybe that's why he's such a cadaverous fellow). Once he gets the 2x4 hit, he moves in fits and starts, considering the short term above all. I'd count this as a very dangerous attribute for someone with the power he has.

I'm sure Davis' staff has as many pictures of his house as they need. My impression of reporters is that they wouldn't think of something as easy and silly as finding the candidate's house and snapping a digital photograph.

For exactly the reasons you cite, I wasn't even sure if I wanted to admit I'd gotten the photograph. But I have to admit I was sort of proud of myself for having the gumption and energy to go out and do it. Anyway, if anyone wants to see it, I'll send it out in email but not on the thread.

Thanks for your thoughts.

D

59 posted on 04/30/2002 8:39:35 PM PDT by daviddennis
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To: ohioWfan
Re #46 - dang, you're good. However, you forgot to say that W is supporting terrorism, is stupid, and was born a liberal.
60 posted on 04/30/2002 8:46:46 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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