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Don't Let California Dictate Emission Rules
Detroit News ^ | 5-8-02

Posted on 05/08/2002 4:23:34 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:08:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: purereason
You must be kidding - JOHN McCANIAC - is lobbying for this enviro wacko bill??? This bitter loser keeps trying to undercut the Bush Admin. at every turn. What a jerk!
21 posted on 05/09/2002 9:55:25 AM PDT by evilsmoker
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22 posted on 07/06/2002 12:19:20 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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23 posted on 07/06/2002 12:20:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Dan from Michigan
Well, thru some very devious shenanigans, the California legislature passed the bill, and it is on the Governor's desk to sign. There was heavy lobbying from outside high level Democratic politician's including Ex Pres Clinton. See these:

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California: Emissions bill senator's smoke and mirrors win (Cal Sen Burton gets credit )

California: Pavley gets national attention after emissions bill approved (Clinton approves)

Governor expects to sign air bill
He says the landmark 'greenhouse gas' curbs strike the right balance.

24 posted on 07/06/2002 12:34:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Dan from Michigan
I want the lawmakers hoofing it. In Sacramento. In August.
25 posted on 07/06/2002 12:34:57 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett; Brad's Gramma; BADJOE; seenenuf; WillaJohns; dalereed
Got any ideas?
26 posted on 07/06/2002 12:37:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: purereason
McCain's lobby efforts have been confirmed!
27 posted on 07/06/2002 12:38:39 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Someone that has an in with the auto companies should approach them to fund a petition drive to put an iniciative on the ballot to recind this legislation. With a proper campaign I think it would win hands down.

If done quick enough I think there is still time to get it on the November ballot which hopefully could encourage enough sheeple democraps to vote some of those out of office that voted for it.

28 posted on 07/06/2002 1:11:52 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: PRND21; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Also, getting your car checked and passed is no big deal.

If you live in San Francisco, it's REAL easy.
They were exempted from "Smog Check II".
I was shocked when I saw this on "California Connected" on PBS super-station KCET in Los Angeles.

Funny, they couldn't find a politician in Sacramento to explain why those millions of cars
in San Francisco were exempted from rules that have to be met in Los Angeles and
by poor schmucks in a lot of the rest of the state.

And the few politicos that got on camera simply blanched when asked why it
was OK for cars to San Francisco to simply pump out their exhaust to let if float
eastward into the agricultural regions.

Easy answer...many more votes per square mile (or gas pump) in San Francisco...

I'm not against clean air...it's just that the rules are so arbitrary and crafted
to punish certain groups and reward others.

It's not much removed from that old power to tax...being the power to destroy.
29 posted on 07/06/2002 1:20:47 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Please take me off your ping list(s).
30 posted on 07/06/2002 2:43:54 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
You have been searching the archives, good find.
31 posted on 07/06/2002 2:56:23 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: dalereed; seenenuf; BADJOE
Look at what I found, course you guys might already know about it:

Information for - "CA. anti SUV bill = anti large house bill in near future."

32 posted on 07/06/2002 5:46:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That very thing is already being taught to the planers and was conceived in the 50s at the University of Chigago in the commie think tank that produces the guidlines that all our planning depts.

The planning and zoning push has has historicly deep communist roots just as public education has. All the blueprint planning and zoning ordinances that have been instituted across this country didn't spring out of nowhere, it was planned.

Those with large houses prepare to have the "less fortunate" move in with you for free without your permission.

33 posted on 07/06/2002 5:58:15 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Dan from Michigan

Thank you.

It's a few wackos that want to set the agenda for everyone else. Of course, if people out there don't wake up they will be successful in this.

I mean, after all California does have the right to pass these laws and it will have an adverse effect on the auto industry when they do.

34 posted on 07/06/2002 6:04:35 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Dan from Michigan
Governor Davis 1-800-988-2588
35 posted on 07/06/2002 7:01:19 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; BADJOE; WillaJohns
If I'm correct, I think the Board that is suppose to determine the tailpipe limits, is probably made up of appointees who are intended to take the blunt of the rath from the voters. Cowardly Democrats who en masse voted for this, must hope they can hide the final specs in a basement and then 5 years from now, blame the Regs on un-named bureacrats who were not elected and can't be fired. Bt the time the Regs come into being, it's possible that term limits will have worked.

I'm more interested in knowing if the Board can be desolved by subsequent legislation - or defunded by a more sane Govenor. Anyone read the actual bill?
36 posted on 07/06/2002 10:30:42 PM PDT by seenenuf
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To: seenenuf
It was put together in the dark of the night !

See this::

California: Emissions bill senator's smoke and mirrors win (Cal Sen Burton gets credit )

37 posted on 07/06/2002 10:42:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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