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California:Say, what ... how big? -- Davis and the Deficit.
The Orange County Register ^ | May 12, 2002 | JOHN SEILER Register editorial writer

Posted on 05/13/2002 9:11:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 04/14/2004 10:05:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

This week in the state Legislature the carnival of debate over non-issue issues will have to stop.

No more about pros and cons of selling sodas on school campuses.

No more about school mascots that may or may not offend someone. This week the drape will fall from the elephant in the room and yes, Gov. Davis, we'll all find out for certain how big the woolly mammoth of a state budget deficit it really is. And the Legislature will finally have to face it and propose how to fix it.


(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: budgetcrisis; calgov2002; california; davis; powercrisis; simon
Got some numbers and history here.
1 posted on 05/13/2002 9:11:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 05/13/2002 9:12:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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ping!
3 posted on 05/13/2002 9:17:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
He missed an option. Cut taxes!!!! Increase economic investment in California and create your own boom.
4 posted on 05/13/2002 9:28:07 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Excellent post Ernest! Great read.

"Recovery in California came two years later than the national recovery and after the income tax increase had expired."

They, the Democrats and RINO's in the state legislature, will never learn.

5 posted on 05/13/2002 9:40:32 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Let's put it another way. IF the state had just budgeted the rate if inflation from 1995 thru 2003 (about 4% - even that might be high) the budget would have gone from 45 billion to 62 billion in 2003 - not the 78 billion they say they need..

To budget OVER the inflation rate, in some years more than DOUBLE the rate, is a sure-fire blueprint for disaster.

And it looks like disaster is pulling into the station.

6 posted on 05/13/2002 9:40:51 PM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
Rep. Tom Campbell says that since Davis was elected the state has added 50,000 new state government workers to its payroll. 50,000!!!!!
7 posted on 05/13/2002 9:44:32 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"It'll be smoke and mirrors," Jack Pitney, a political science professor at Claremont McKenna College, told me. "He is going to do everything in his power to avoid anything causing pain in the year 2002. ... This will require a true feat of magic. Maybe he'll get Siegfried and Roy as his budget consultants."

GraYouT might want to get Shuck And Jive as his consultants instead.

DUMP DAVIS


8 posted on 05/13/2002 10:23:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"It'll be smoke and mirrors," Jack Pitney, a political science professor at Claremont McKenna College, told me. "He is going to do everything in his power to avoid anything causing pain in the year 2002. ... This will require a true feat of magic. Maybe he'll get Siegfried and Roy as his budget consultants."

GraYouT might want to get Shuck And Jive as his consultants instead.

DUMP DAVIS


9 posted on 05/13/2002 10:24:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: WillaJohns
According to my little hand-held calculator:

If those new 50k state employees are paid an average $50,000/yr, ol' Grey just obligated the state to an additional $2.5 billion/year expense FOREVER.

10 posted on 05/13/2002 10:30:41 PM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
This was just on Fox"...Govenor Grey Davis has just solved California`s budget shortfall by agreeing to donate enough money to the state to bring its budget into balance. Davis will use his own campaign funds to help the state.." could happen, right?
11 posted on 05/13/2002 10:44:19 PM PDT by bybybill
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To: WillaJohns
Got to manage all the programs for the recent folks who moved in from down south!
12 posted on 05/13/2002 10:57:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for an excellent account of what's going on with the budget.

Gray Davis sure loves to mortgage the future, doesn't he? He seems to think bonds are the answer to everything - the budget, the power crisis, and God knows what else.

This whole mess makes me almost embarassed to live in the state.

D

13 posted on 05/13/2002 11:04:56 PM PDT by daviddennis
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"Gray Davis sure loves to mortgage the future, doesn't he? He seems to think bonds are the answer to everything - the budget, the power crisis, and God knows what else."

After passing all of these new bonds, then seeing their interest rates skyrocket for new bonds, and watching their budgets become spent in advance on paying off old bonds, the Democrats in California will then DEMAND debt relief from the federal government just as Third World nations demand to be relieved of their debts.

That's the legacy of socialism...

14 posted on 05/13/2002 11:20:18 PM PDT by Southack
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To: for-q-clinton
If he had more prudently increased spending at a 5 percent annual rate those two years, keeping pace with inflation and population increases, the budget would stand at about $64 billion, down by $14 billion, with the surpluses from previous years used to cover this year's deficit and even some money returned to taxpayers as tax rate cuts to increase economic growth - which in turn would produce higher tax receipts in the long run.

He said it in a roundabout way.

15 posted on 05/13/2002 11:26:29 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Finally! A well-written article which is focused on the real problem in California.
16 posted on 05/14/2002 2:36:18 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The quotes are just too good in this article, thanks.

During the dot-com boom, the governor spent like a teen-age computer geek awash in his first paycheck from a computer company. Then the dot-com boom crashed in 2000. We might excuse the teen-ager's excesses as youthful folly. But for adults running a government, we expect more.

The key figures to look at in the Tuesday numbers will be how much the governor borrows from other state funds, such as the tobacco settlement. "I believe he's going to borrow his way through this thing," Sen. Haynes said. "It'll be smoke and mirrors," Jack Pitney, a political science professor at Claremont McKenna College, told me. "He is going to do everything in his power to avoid anything causing pain in the year 2002. ... This will require a true feat of magic. Maybe he'll get Siegfried and Roy as his budget consultants." ......Other schemes being discussed include borrowing from the state pension fund and anticipating more federal money (good luck from the Republican Bush administration).

I expect that Gov. Davis' Tuesday budget revision will challenge novelist Stephen King, in both fiction and horror. But unlike the federal government, the state can't print money. All its general fund money comes from real citizens and businesses, or from loans with financial institutions that scrutinize the numbers. About the only way all this fiscal high-stakes poker game can work is if there's a new economic boom the equivalent of the 1997-99 dot-com boom. It's hard to evision what that would be. The borrowing the governor and the Legislature will take on in the next few weeks then will become a new, long-term burden on the budget. So will the bonds likely to be passed by voters.

OK so June is almost upon us and no bonds no power warrants, budget battles infront and this should get so interesting in an election year. I think that Simon should run on a simple campaign message, "do you like what the Democrats have done to the state's economy, do you feel more secure with your job, and if you all the democrats to remain in power will you be worse off than when Davis was first elected."

18 posted on 05/14/2002 5:58:16 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
GRAY DAVIS

The FIRST item that needs to be cut from the California budget?
19 posted on 05/14/2002 7:56:07 AM PDT by d14truth
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To: Robert357;Liz
CLUELESS

The Gray Davis Administration and the liberal legislators in Sacramento.
20 posted on 05/14/2002 8:00:56 AM PDT by d14truth
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