California: Court says schools to lose if budget is late

The San Diego Union Tribune ^ | May 30, 2002 | Ed Mendel

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

More on the Budget crisis!

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[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

More tidbits !

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

4-year-old lawsuit filed by the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association

[unixfox]

"There are state workers who live from paycheck to paycheck,"

So do a lot of other people !! When the state of Kalifornia learns to keep it's costs under control and fix their ILLEGAL alien problem then maybe they can think about getting raises. Until then, I say let the effing state starve to death.

[Chad Fairbanks]

"There are state workers who live from paycheck to paycheck," said Rick Chivaro, Connell's chief counsel. "If you reduce them to $6.75 an hour, their payments on mortgages, cars, tuition and other obligations are at risk."

While I don't wish bad things to happen to people, I think that perhaps it's time the public sector started feeling the same pinch that the private sector constantly feels...

[Myrddin]

"There are state workers who live from paycheck to paycheck," said Rick Chivaro, Connell's chief counsel. "If you reduce them to $6.75 an hour, their payments on mortgages, cars, tuition and other obligations are at risk."

The court told them all state employees would be limited to pay at the federal minimum wage rate of $5.15 per hour NOT the California minimum wage of $6.75. Rick obviously wasn't paying attention.

[Billy_bob_bob]

Hear! HEAR! How about a %10 R.I.F. (Reduction In Force) for all of the state agencies? Just like what gets done in the private sector? If California were a corporation that was looking at the kind of budget crisis they are looking at, don't you think maybe they might consider a layoff? In fact, a layoff would be the very first tool they would pull out of the old kit-bag!

I think it is long past time for state agencies to be managed in the same way that private companies are managed, and that means that every so often there are going to be layoffs. Helps to clear out the deadwood.

[Dog Gone]

and the salaries of judges and elected officials

While I laughed at the thought of Gray Davis and the legislators making minimum wage, this new fact is even better! Now, any delay will make it look as if the Democrats don't care as long as their own paychecks are secure (which has been true all along).

This decision has really made my day!

[Myrddin]

Since the budget deadline is July 1st, maybe California should shutdown the schools completely for the summer as a first step in dealing with the budget overruns. A few people will complain about missing summer school, but it isn't the main part of the school year.

[South40]

So do a lot of other people !! When the state of Kalifornia learns to keep it's costs under control and fix their ILLEGAL alien problem then maybe they can think about getting raises. Until then, I say let the effing state starve to death.

That’s somewhat of a simplistic approach—don’t you think?

Over 40% of California voters vote Republican; I know, I am one.

We are at the mercy of the Democrat controlled Senate, Assembly, and Governor.

But according to you, these nearly 13 million conservatives should be left to “Starve to death?”

Wise choice of words there bub.

Oh, and, the problems with illegal aliens falls more in the lap of federal lawmakers who have done practically nothing to stop the flow of illegals into this country.

California foots the bill for that inaction, and would no doubt love to see it end.

[Chad Fairbanks]

I can agree with the RIF... :0)

[IronJack]

The citizens of California -- the ones who overwhelmingly pass these plebiscites -- are obviously at war with the government of California -- the elitists who are determined to implement a left-wing agenda over the bodies of the populace. This kind of aristocratic arrogance is what got Louis XVI beheaded. And got King George III booted from these shores a few centuries ago.

I'd weep for California, except it's not worth the salt in my tears.

[Hugin]

The court told them all state employees would be limited to pay at the federal minimum wage rate of $5.15 per hour NOT the California minimum wage of $6.75.

I think you read that backwards.

The court also interpreted a previous federal court ruling requiring payments to state workers under the Fair Labor Standards Act to mean the state minimum wage, $6.75 an hour.

[Glenn]

I think other states should get together and sue the state of California for being a bad state. You know...like the tobacco settlement, Microsoft, and anyone whoever employed an analyst to guess what the price of AT&T or Enron was going to be.

[alaskanfan]

Typical liberal bravo sierra.

First they cut the programs that mean the most to the public.

Here in Alaska a few years ago there was a mandate for an income tax that was voted down by the people. The governmental response was to cut road maintenance programs, however there was still enough money in the budget to vote themselves a pay increase and build a new exercise facility for the legislators in the capitol.

[Myrddin]

Another parallel article on this issue stated that wages would be paid at the federal rate not the state rate. I suspect Connell et al are angling for the state rate to reduce the howls from state employees.

[Edmund Burke]

Bush to California......."DROP DEAD"

[Edmund Burke]

Is there a procedure in the U.S. Constitution to expel a state from the Union against its will?

[snopercod]

Thanks for keeping us flagged, Ernest.

I think I smell a whiff of "emergency powers" in the air. From the California Constitution, Article IV, Section 12 (c):

Until the budget bill has been enacted, the Legislature shall not send to the Governor for consideration any bill appropriating funds for expenditure during the fiscal year for which the budget bill is to be enacted, except emergency bills recommended by the Governor or appropriations for the salaries and expenses of the Legislature.