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California: Davis adviser's influence shows water and money can mix?
napaNews.com ^ | Sunday, June 2, 2002 | DON THOMPSON AP

Posted on 06/02/2002 4:01:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: forester
Isn't this an truly interesting thread that Ernest has put together.

Amazing that the enviro whackos lie and worry about a slimey sucker fish and haven't been screaming about this Water Baron Brackpool on a 24/7 basis.

41 posted on 06/02/2002 10:49:52 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: all
Map from the MWD . Link here :


42 posted on 06/02/2002 10:50:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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What is the Cadiz Groundwater Storage and Dry-Year Supply Program?

This is a proposed program between the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California and Cadiz Inc., a publicly traded agricultural company that has branched out into water development. If approved, the project is one of a few dry-year storage programs to protect Southern California from future reductions in Colorado River water supplies. The proposed project is located in the Mojave Desert, about 20 miles south of Interstate 40, roughly halfway between Needles and Ludlow in eastern San Bernardino County.

The project would begin near MWD's Iron Mountain Pumping Plant along the Colorado River Aqueduct. As proposed, Metropolitan will divert some of its Colorado River water north through an approximate 35-mile pipeline into a 390-acre man-made earthen basin. The goal is to build a nest egg of up to 1 million acre-feet of Colorado River water and withdraw up to 150,000 acre-feet (enough to support 300,000 households) a year when needed in dry years.

In addition to storing its own Colorado River water, Metropolitan would purchase and withdraw native groundwater, subject to an extensive monitoring and management plan designed to modify the program if it were shown to be impacting the environment. In addition to selling water to Metropolitan, Cadiz also could sell to third parties as part of the 50-year contract.

The 50-year program will improve Southern California's water supply reliability in two ways:

•  Storage - Store Colorado River water to better manage available wet-year supplies to meet dry-year needs.
•  Supply - Provide a new dry-year supply from the high-quality groundwater underlying the Cadiz property.

The Cadiz Program is designed to take wet-year water available on the Colorado River and deliver it to the Cadiz property for storage in the underlying aquifer system. Up to one million acre-feet of surplus Colorado River water will be stored at any one time. During dry years, this water will be withdrawn from storage and delivered to Metropolitan's service area. In addition, a portion of the existing groundwater that normally evaporates from adjacent dry lakes will also be made available to Metropolitan during dry years. Approximately one to two million acre-feet of high-quality groundwater will be provided to Metropolitan over the 50-year term of the agreement. The actual amount of water to be stored and transferred will be governed by the restrictions and conditions of a Groundwater Monitoring and Management Plan, which is designed to protect surrounding natural resources.

Cadiz owns more than 27,000 acres in the Cadiz and Fenner valleys in eastern San Bernardino County, approximately 35 miles north of Metropolitan's Colorado River Aqueduct. The Program's capital facilities will be located entirely on Cadiz property. Studies by independent experts have determined that the Program site overlies an aquifer system, which is ideally suited for underground water storage. The watershed that supplies water to the Program site encompasses approximately 1,300 square miles, or an area larger than the state of Rhode Island. The aquifer system contains approximately 20 million acre-feet of high-quality groundwater, which receives replenishment naturally through rainfall each year. An acre-foot of water contains approximately 326,000 gallons and is sufficient to meet the needs of two Southern California families for a year.

43 posted on 06/02/2002 10:54:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Go to LATimes.com and type in Cadiz at he search window- It is being noticed!

Critics Raising Concerns About Cadiz Water Project

OR

Cadiz Farm Deal With Waleed Hits Snags

44 posted on 06/02/2002 10:55:22 PM PDT by Kay Soze
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the reply and the map. I bet there is some connection here from all of the water sent south last year if it could be piped into that aquifer or some other holding area.
45 posted on 06/02/2002 11:01:22 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Tacis
"I know that Davis is an ultra-liberal, extreme leftist in California but, tell me, how does he stay out of jail?"

Because those who are responsible for putting him there are of the exact same ilk. Davis is a snake for sure but the state legislature is overwhelmingly Democrat and the few Repubs are basically powerless. I predict Davis will be re-elected by a huge margin. Simon doesn't impress me - I don't see the fight in him and Davis has more $ than Simon could ever wish for. California is a loss.

46 posted on 06/02/2002 11:03:39 PM PDT by Sunnyvale CA Eng.
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To: Grampa Dave
There is a Big Dam and Reservoir in Riverside county that is in the process of being filled.
But I thoought that was all Colorado River Water.
But I think there is a way they could flow water to that from San Bernandino.
47 posted on 06/02/2002 11:16:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here is a map and I think the Diamond Valley Lake is the new big reservoir.
It is just east of Lake Skinner.

This is from the MWD site and is Titled

The Source of your water.


48 posted on 06/02/2002 11:22:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Kay Soze;all
Something else here:

Water Marketing in California

From "Mike Mecke" <mmecke@saws.org>
Posted on Jan 3, 2001 Texas WaterNet | WaterTalk | Archive | Jan 2001 | Jan 3, article 3
Hypertext archive utility by Jonathan J

49 posted on 06/02/2002 11:29:39 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Some more great finds!

However, Grampa Dave to 30 kids today is worn out and heading to bed to join his really worn out wife, who had one or two of these 30 kids in her arms from 11 am something to 5:30 pm. (2 were our grandkids, we were adopted by the other 28).

Good night and keep up the great work on the water robbers/barons.

50 posted on 06/02/2002 11:40:57 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Are any Southlanders concerned that the Egyptians and the Saudis are wanting to "help" with their water supply?
51 posted on 06/03/2002 3:03:20 AM PDT by snopercod
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Exactly my thought, snopercod. I am sorry to say it, but in the climate since September 11, even honest businessmen from Saudi Arabia are highly suspect. Even if the business is on the up and up, how do we know who works for them?

The destruction of a large part of California's water supply would be a huge economic disaster for the entire nation. Even if there were no loss of life, it would be necessary for millions to relocate to other states.

Governor Davis is just the type of dim-bulb Rat who can be duped into letting down his guard, simply by the application of a few well-placed checks.

52 posted on 06/03/2002 3:23:36 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks for the flag. This creep has had his way for so long he probably thinks this will all blow over before election time.
53 posted on 06/03/2002 6:30:43 AM PDT by Howie
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To: snopercod; miss marple; ernest at the beach, Ron Dog, Elk Grove Dan, liz, d14truth,
I didn't want to post last night what you posted on this issue, since I was tired and wanted a good night's sleep.

However your reply/post needs to be reposted:

Are any Southlanders concerned that the Egyptians and the Saudis are wanting to "help" with their water supply?

How many Saudis were involved directly in 9/11 by being on those planes, killing flight attendants and flight crew and then flying those planes in the WTC and Pentagon. Thank God the Lets Roll heroes stopped the other flight.

Herr Davis and his band of petty facists would have zero problem selling out to Saudis who hate America. The enviral whackos would be overjoyed if about 20 million Southlanders had to be relocated like Miss Marple points out.

This is a very chilling scenario. Tom Clancy couldn't come up with a better plot than the reality of what is happening with the potential water supply of millions of South Landers.

54 posted on 06/03/2002 8:38:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Miss Marple; snoper cod; liz, ernest at the beach, ron dog, elk grove dan, howie, d14truth
I have had suspicions re Davis and the Opeckers and their vast sums of money. Davis and the Kali enviral whackos have worked since the Days of MoonBeam Brown to limit, control and remove electrical power production in our state. The lack of supply to meet the increasind demands is the base cause of the power failures. We basically have no drilling for new oil in Kali. Yet, we as a state use more oil than most countries. That has resulted in more dependence on Opecker oil over the decades since Moonbeam and his Darth Vader sidekick, Gray Davis appeared as Brown's scary aide.

One of these days we will probably be able to see a money trail from the Opecker Princes to the enviral groups. Who then help their poster boys like Davis get elected with laundered funds and their state wide green eyed voting cultts.

Last but not least, each day out here in Kali we are being exposed to the reality of Davis and bribes to re elect him. I'm sure that he went in premature orgasism when he shook the hand of this Rich Opecker Prince, just dreaming about the money the Opecker Princes could donate to him. They could help me to become another Jimmy Carter. A president financed and paid for by the Opecker Princes.

Davis is as amoral as a man can be. There is nothing that he would not do to be re elected or elected to a higher post than governor.

55 posted on 06/03/2002 8:59:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Beth Dozoretz was the friend of Marc Richs wife .She took the fifth before Congress in the Marc Rich pardon scandal.Burkle is the multi-millionaire grocery store king who is a biggy friend of Davis and Clinton and Condit
56 posted on 06/03/2002 10:16:55 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well, I guess I'll go google the Trade Mission!
57 posted on 06/03/2002 10:18:42 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Robert357
This raises some real corruption issues with the Gov's office

This, and the 50 other stories where Davis donors benefited within days of giving money to Davis.

Davis doesn't care. He's been in the public arena his entire life and thinks he's some sort of demi-god or monarch. He thinks he knows what's best for everyone, and no one has the right to criticize him. Davis HAS to go.

58 posted on 06/03/2002 10:49:21 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Miss Marple
The destruction of a large part of California's water supply would be a huge economic disaster for the entire nation. Even if there were no loss of life, it would be necessary for millions to relocate to other states.

California leads the country in agricultural production, and water is the life-giving source of our agricultural success. With the huge costs of energy, the enviro-wackos and excessive government regulation, major damage to our water supply would decimate our entire agricultural economy. I don't think anyone in Los Angeles or San Francisco understands the important and symbiotic existance of ag in our great state.

59 posted on 06/03/2002 10:51:44 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The most recent round for funding under Prop 13 (Water Bond 2000)was suppose to be ranked so that at least 40 to 50% of the funds this year went for Central Valley projects. Only nobody representing the Valley was on DWR's select committee. All this years funding again goes to large metropolitan areas. All paid off politics and DWR is full of liberal appointees doing the bidding of the Governor.
60 posted on 06/03/2002 11:01:49 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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