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California:State's acquisition saves 25,000 acres of redwoods
Contra Costa Times ^ | Thu, Jun. 06, 2002 | Don Thompson ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 06/06/2002 10:40:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:29:24 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SACRAMENTO - California has acquired 25,000 acres along its far northwest coast that will be joined with other public lands to form the largest contiguous redwood forest to be safeguarded in the state.

The Mill Creek watershed, purchased for $60 million, will link the redwood groves of the Jedediah Smith and Del Norte Coast Redwood state parks and connect inland and coastal habitats. It also borders on parts of the Smith River National Recreation area and Redwood National Park, more than 6 million acres of protected public land in all.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: budget; calgov2002; california; davis; ecowackos; knife; landgrab; redwoods; whythis
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We have a budget crisis, why are we spending a dime on anything other than the essentials?

There is State Taxpayers money in this acquisition.

1 posted on 06/06/2002 10:40:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 06/06/2002 10:41:31 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The city of San Jose is also applying to the State Resources Agency for a $2 million grant for acquisition of land for trails. Profilgate waste of taxpayer money in the face of a multi-billion dollar budget deficit is rampant.
3 posted on 06/06/2002 10:44:01 AM PDT by mvpel
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Actually, the $60 million was spent by the Save-the-Redwood(pulp)-League. But what you and I and every taxpayer in California should be incensed over is that here is 25,000 acres that is not property taxed anymore.

The Save-the-Redwood-League would be paying property tax on this property until they gave it to the state!!!

4 posted on 06/06/2002 10:45:11 AM PDT by Frohickey
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Shore up his base vote, try and keep them from moving Green.
5 posted on 06/06/2002 10:45:33 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: mvpel
There are more articles at R & T today on governmental agencies misspending !
6 posted on 06/06/2002 10:46:44 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That is probably 1/3 state money and 2/3 fed money from the Land and Water Consevation. The states' portion of LWCF is being currently funded 100% @ $450 million/year.
7 posted on 06/06/2002 10:47:17 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Frohickey
There is 43.5 million of taxpayer money in there too!
8 posted on 06/06/2002 10:47:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That included $42.5 million in state bond and grant money, $15 million from the league, and $2.5 million from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

Actually 45 million dollars!

9 posted on 06/06/2002 10:48:42 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That's quite an acquisition, however, as size goes, that's just a MUIR WOODS.
10 posted on 06/06/2002 10:51:24 AM PDT by mict42
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A drop in the bucket for Mayor Ron Gonzoless's new $450 million city hall bordello. There are large empty buildings in SJ, and he has to build a new one. $2 million is pin money for him!
11 posted on 06/06/2002 10:55:15 AM PDT by evolved_rage
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
A little bit of Redwood trivia.
Over 80% of the original Sierra Redwoods still remain.
The Coastal Redwoods of which only 25% remain, had major portions cut down and burned to make lime for the concrete to rebuild SF after the 1906 earthquake.
12 posted on 06/06/2002 10:56:20 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Gophack
The league then turned the title over to the state Department of Parks and Recreation. It's the largest such transfer in the league's 84-year history.

The State is the worst possible landowner. If that forest is mixed old and second growth, they are condemning those trees to death unless they thin it. The State doesn't have the money to do that.

Conservatives own the moral high ground on environmental issues, but just don't know how to wield it. That you would tacitly concede this constituency proves that the professional political class has no idea what they are talking about.

13 posted on 06/06/2002 11:05:59 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Drove through that area few years back. That place is gorgeous.
14 posted on 06/06/2002 11:06:54 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Darn "tree-huggers" value plants over people.
15 posted on 06/06/2002 11:22:33 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I have been wandering Malibu Creek Park for exercise, and it is a beautiful place. (I have pictures to prove it.)

But I don't get the impression that the state has sufficient funds to maintain it with anything more than a minimal level of quality. I think the state would be better off maintaining what it has than buying more.

The Save the Redwoods folks got the state to finance most of the purchase, which I found interesting. Since the land is now the state's, I have to assume the mortgage obligation is likewise. This is just like Gray Davis' budget - no money spent now (since the Redwoods folks put in a sizable downpayment) but plenty in the future as the bonds come due.

Not very smart in my view.

D

16 posted on 06/06/2002 11:32:03 AM PDT by daviddennis
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To: daviddennis;carry_Okie
I don't think most people understand why maintenance for a Redwood forest might be a concern.
17 posted on 06/06/2002 11:37:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Correct. They think that if you fell a redwood that it dies. They couldn't be more wrong. Cut a big redwood and you'll get twenty sprouts in the space where a single tree once stood. If you don't thin them, then a fire can induce significant mortality because juvenile bark is so thin. It's a disastrous policy.
18 posted on 06/06/2002 11:40:20 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Actually, there is not state taxpayer money in this acquisition unless you count the management of the property.

What is more alarming is that now, this $60 million land is not being property taxed. This means that less taxes is going to the state, and they would increase property tax rates in order to recoup this tax revenue loss.

Save-The-Redwoods League should still be paying the property tax incurred!

19 posted on 06/06/2002 11:50:18 AM PDT by Frohickey
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
25,000 acres is nothing. Up here we lose that much to wildfires every day. A 100,000 acre wildfire doesn't usually make the news unless somebody had to grab their dog and rifle and run for it.
20 posted on 06/06/2002 11:53:42 AM PDT by RightWhale
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