California's Dreamin'

CNSNews.com ^ | July 12, 2002 | Patrick J. Michaels

[aardvark1]

I owned an '89 Geo Metro that got 50 mpg and had a back seat.

[hauerf]

It's obvious that California's greenhouse law is a sham.

Yes, of course it's a sham, but it's a feel good socialist sham and therefore it is good and deserves our support no matter what hard, cold logic tells those who are capable of thinking.

[daviddennis]

It's worth reading The Skeptical Environmentalist by Bjorn Loberg for its take on gloal warming. Executive summary: The best solution is to do nothing political, but increase spending on research on alternative fuels. Don't tax gas more, don't tax SUVs, just do the research.

He says, in effect, that if we spent $2 billion in research, we'd get truly cost-effective clean vehicles a decade or two down the road, and global warming would peak and decline rapidly(*). This is as opposed to trillions (!) in taxes and extra spending to get global warming down by a fraction of a degree worldwide.

In short, we are barking down the wrong tree when we take this punative approach. It's both bad politics and lousy science.

D

(*) He doesn't mention this, but a lot of this commitment has already been made by private companies such as GM. See the August issue of Wired for an intriguing cover story on GM's latest research.

[Toidylop]

could've had a Yugo!!!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks for posting the article.

An update is needed for folks outside of California. Thru some parlimentary shenigans, the bill is now AB1493.

See this:California: Emissions bill senator's smoke and mirrors win (Cal Sen Burton gets credit )

And this:
California: Emissions bill senator's smoke and mirrors win (Cal Sen Burton gets credit )

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Second link title should be :

DAVIS SIGNALS PLAN TO SIGN SUV LEGISLATION

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[dalereed]

There is no global warming!

It is nothing but a diobolical plot by socialists to immobilize the public so that they are controlable.

You can't control a mobile society.

[aardvark1]

I actually had a Yugo for awhile but it didn't get near 50 mpg--only about 35. What a piece of junk!!

I sold it to a guy who was going to race it. Seems some of the earlier export models had Fiat engines in them.

[dalereed]

"Seems some of the earlier export models had Fiat engines in them."

Now that has to be some kind of a joke, a bicicle with 2 flat tires is superior to a Fiat and coupled with a Yugo has to be equivalant to racing a bicicle without wheels and a parapaligic riding it.

[Toidylop]

It is nothing but a diobolical plot by socialists to immobilize the public so that they are controlable.

You can't control a mobile society

Bingo... Unfortunately, the PEEPLE of Kalifornia were screwed again and again!!! but too stupid to get it. SIGH...

[aardvark1]

"Now that has to be some kind of a joke, a bicicle with 2 flat tires is superior to a Fiat and coupled with a Yugo has to be equivalant to racing a bicicle without wheels and a parapaligic riding it."

I didn't ask but now that you mention it, it could have been Soap Box Derby.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Unfortunately, the PEEPLE of Kalifornia were screwed again and again!!! but too stupid to get it. SIGH...

Ya know, the California bashing is starting to get old. Toidylop, I don't mean to pick you out from thousands of posters on FR, it's just that you're the one who happens to have posted here....really, I am sorry.

We're no different than any other state. The MEDIA is covering this thing up to a great degree. If you, or anyone else, thinks that all the people out here who drive their trucks, SUV's, etc., would FALL for this if they knew the TRUTH....

I seriously doubt that the networks are smart enough to figure out FR, but hey, if one of you TV reporters is reading this, please, do a segment of it on TV? Tell the public the truth.

Please, Toidylop and everyone who's not from CA but reading this, help us fight this STUPID bill. I have no idea where it started, but you know the old saying about "So goes California, so goes the nation"? (Har! SOMETHING like that!)

[ladyinred]

Actually the people of California are not stupid, it is our state government who are bought off by campaign contributions from the minority groups of Greenies! Everyone here is furious about this, but are hopeless to stop the jerks in Sacramento. They get bombarded with protests from citizens, but feel safe in their seats to ignore us.

What I can't seem to get anyone to understand it that we are NOT all a bunch of liberals here! This state is like any other, we have liberals, and we have conservatives and we have middle of the roads and indifferent. People are people. Do you really think we are this stupid? Even the normal RATS here don't want this garbage! They are complaining about this too!

[Bob]

Bingo... Unfortunately, the PEEPLE of Kalifornia were screwed again and again!!! but too stupid to get it. SIGH...

Please note the snailmail address for FreeRepublic at the bottom of this page. (Hint: The CA part doesn't stand for Canada.)

[homeschool mama]

And where might you reside so *we who are stupid in California* can slam you? What a dork. An ignorant one at that.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Please note the snailmail address for FreeRepublic at the bottom of this page. (Hint: The CA part doesn't stand for Canada.)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[homeschool mama]

Notice that Toidylop hasn't returned to respond to your statement or my question. What a Dork.

[Bob]

Notice that Toidylop hasn't returned to respond to your statement or my question. What a Dork.

I'm not surprised.