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1 posted on 07/16/2002 9:40:03 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
FYI
2 posted on 07/16/2002 9:40:20 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
This year will be more like 1966.
3 posted on 07/16/2002 9:45:32 AM PDT by Jimbaugh
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To: John Jorsett
Last week, the Wall Street Journal revealed that Simon is one of a number of people who participated in offshore tax shelters that the Internal Revenue Service believes may be illegal.

HOW THE F@@K WAS SIMON SUPPOSED TO KNOW IT WAS ILLEGAL IF KPMG SOLD IT TO HIM!

4 posted on 07/16/2002 9:54:22 AM PDT by evolved_rage
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To: John Jorsett
BeeDoo BUMP...
6 posted on 07/16/2002 10:03:06 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: John Jorsett
If this were truly an objective piece, the author might have at least mentioned the eight other polls (including one Field poll) showing "Simple Simon" leading Davis.
7 posted on 07/16/2002 10:21:40 AM PDT by Coop
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I'm in the Los Angeles area, and I see Simon's ads on TV all the time. I just saw the Rudy Giuliani spot a little while ago.

8 posted on 07/16/2002 10:49:17 AM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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I think Davis will win, because of the illegal alien vote.
9 posted on 07/16/2002 2:42:40 PM PDT by boris
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To: John Jorsett
I don't buy any of this. Brown beat herself in 1994. She stopped doing ads a week before the election. Wilson was strong enough to entertain running for President and maybe he would have been a stronger candidate than Dole.
10 posted on 07/16/2002 7:50:25 PM PDT by altair
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To: John Jorsett; Ernest_at_the_Beach

12 posted on 07/17/2002 3:36:38 AM PDT by JustAmy
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To: Gophack
Bill Simon, seems to be stuck in first gear -- unable to present a consistent, coherent argument why his replacing Davis would make Californians happier.

And that's the truth. It doesn't take money. It takes vision and communications skills.

It isn't up to Simon to point out Davis' failures. They're obvious. The problem is that the "professionals" lack imagination or sufficient understanding of conservative principles to produce and sell a positive message to swing voters. If we don't come up with those alternatives and get the public to understand them, we deserve to lose. They exist.

We are all getting damned tired of excuses and promises from the campaign that it will all come out after Labor Day. That's too late to explain creative ideas and TV isn't the way to get them out cost effectively. We have a unique opportunity because of the protracted nature of this campaign and we are blowing it.

13 posted on 07/17/2002 6:51:09 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: John Jorsett; ElkGroveDan
A Field Poll released last week underscored Simon's quandary. While California voters, the poll found, are no more inclined to like, trust or re-elect Davis than they were a year ago -- less so, in fact -- he continues to lead Simon simply because they are getting bad vibes from the challenger, thanks to his own miscues and a drumbeat of negative ads from the Davis camp.

We have nearly four months before the election and THE AVERAGE VOTER is NOT focusing on the campaign. We -- including Dan Walters who lives and breathes politics -- look for instant information in an instant information age.

The fact is, Davis' negatives are high and haven't dropped. Simon DOES need to give the voters a reason to vote for him, but they have to be LISTENING. For the umpteenth time, I'll point out that EVERYONE said Simon waited too long in the primary to attack Riordan, go on t.v., radio, etc., etc. and he couldn't possibly make it up.

Simon won by nearly 19 points.

It would have been foolhardy to go on television or radio during the Christmas season, as some people argued. It is foolhardy to waste resources in the summer when people are on vacation, kids are out of school, people are watching less television, and generally not thinking about the election.

Simon is doing things right. Davis is keeping his negatives high because he's a liberal and now everyone is realizing it. After Labor Day, Simon should come out with positive ads, and more of the anti-Davis humorous ads that were playing across the state.

Notice, fellow Freepers, that Davis ran $4 million of ads that ushered in a five point DROP in his popularity. They have been pulled. I believe he ran to ads to entice Simon into wasting his money. Davis has more money and will always have more money because he shakes down businesses and unions for contributions -- pay-to-play. I'm glad Simon didn't fall for the trap.

Eight weeks is MORE than enough time to win the election when people are LISTENING.

Go Simon!

17 posted on 07/17/2002 9:30:35 AM PDT by Gophack
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