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1 posted on 07/20/2002 12:16:35 PM PDT by Jean S
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The roughly 27 million customers of Edison, PG&E and San Diego Gas & Electric Co. will pay off the bonds over the next 20 years.

...and pay and pay and pay. Thank you Governor Grayout Davis.

2 posted on 07/20/2002 12:25:19 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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From the article: "The roughly 27 million customers of Edison, PG&E and San Diego Gas & Electric Co. will pay off the bonds over the next 20 years. Electric bills are not expected to be raised to cover the payments."

State tax revenue will be used to pay off these bonds so that people who insist that they be allowed to consume energy at less than the market price may continue to do so.

5 posted on 07/20/2002 12:34:01 PM PDT by William Tell
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The roughly 27 million customers of Edison, PG&E and San Diego Gas & Electric Co. will pay off the bonds over the next 20 years. Electric bills are not expected to be raised to cover the payments.

NOT EXPECTED is a far cry from WON'T.

So, we're paying higher electricity bills and we'll be paying off this bond until our kids have kids of their own. For me, these bonds will still be around when I'll be thinking about retirement. My youngest will be in his 30s.

Thanks, Gray Davis! I've got a 30-year mortgage, but at the end I'll still have a house. I have a 30-year bond debt on electricity I used once in 2001 because of your gross incompetence to run the state of California.

DUMP DAVIS!

11 posted on 07/20/2002 12:51:18 PM PDT by Gophack
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14 posted on 07/20/2002 1:07:52 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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While bond funds might be a different story, the interest rate is kinda of low right now. This means the cost of a bond will be high, probably about its face value. This also means you will never do better than the interest at the time of purchase.

During Carter's disastrous presidency, and there was more than one disaster then, some of actually his own doing, bond rates were high and so was inflation. Those who had the scratch at that time could get 20%. What's more the 20% continued even after Carter was gone and the economy returned to sanity. And the trade price for the bond almost doubled overnight. Win-win.

If a person buys some of these California power bonds now, he will lock in 6% or so, whatever the interest rate turns out to be at initial offering. If the interest rates inrease, bond prices will decrease just enough to make an effective interest rate in spite of the face value. Which is to say, as interest rates rise, and this will happen, not only will you lock in your 6%, but your bonds will bring you less if you sell them. Lose-lose.

So, much as I relish the idea of someone paying his utility bill and some taxes too for the next 30 years to support me in my dotage, the bonds don't look all so attractive.

Institutions will snap them up, of course.

20 posted on 07/20/2002 2:02:38 PM PDT by RightWhale
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Vote for Simon....he's NOT insane.
37 posted on 07/20/2002 5:44:40 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

And in this investment climate, what kind of an idiot would even think of this as an investment?

Even at a guaranteed 20% return, I will pass, thank you.

Yes I have lived all my life (so far) in California...

43 posted on 07/21/2002 1:07:46 PM PDT by Publius6961
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"This is a very unique situation," Dan Aschenbach, senior vice president for Moody's Investors Service, told the Times. "I don't think there is any other type of bond issue that's had to be put in place to resolve an issue as significant as a $6 billion (budget) deficit to the state."

For a state perhaps...
If an individual did it he would universally be condemned as criminally irresponsible and certain candidate for imminent bankrupcy.

One does not cover current expenses with long term obligations. Ever.

Economics for Idiots 101

Not ever.

44 posted on 07/21/2002 1:12:09 PM PDT by Publius6961
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More financial mismanagement from the Kalifornia bureacrats.
It makes sense to issue bonds to build infrastructure such as new power plants.
That would be similar to taking out a mortgage for building a new home.
But you don't take out a mortgage just to pay your monthly bills --- That's BAD news and totally irresponsible.
45 posted on 07/21/2002 1:12:23 PM PDT by Willie Green
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Kalifornia now issuing bonds is like Bangladesh issuing bonds.
64 posted on 07/24/2002 10:36:41 AM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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