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California: Paid leave bill to test Legislature. Business calls it a job killer
Oakland Tribune ^ | July 29, 2002

Posted on 07/29/2002 11:58:01 AM PDT by John Jorsett

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Business calls it a job killer

Sounds like a sure-fire thing, then. Nothing the California legislature likes better than to punish business.

1 posted on 07/29/2002 11:58:01 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
FYI
2 posted on 07/29/2002 11:58:23 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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You know who saw this coming years ago?

Rush Limbaugh.

When the Family and Medical Leave Act was being debated and signed he said something to the effect of "Just wait, they're not going to stop here, next is going to be getting paid not to work". Sure enough, sadly, his words turned out to be prophetic.

3 posted on 07/29/2002 12:06:28 PM PDT by frmrda
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"The added cost of this mandated paid family leave program, plus the recently increased workers' compensation benefit levels, will place new strains on the nearly bankrupt SDI trust fund, which will mean even more SDI tax increases in the future," Broyles says.

DEMOCRATS = HIGHER TAXES.





4 posted on 07/29/2002 12:06:57 PM PDT by Weimdog
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Labor unions are calling the proposal ... a blessing for working families.

Labor unions would call any pay-for-nothing proposal a blessing. That is their job, to ensure that businesses "employ" people who don't have to produce anything. That's what makes labor unions perfect communist front organizations. They are avowed enemies of capitalism, at least ideologically. In practice, they are usually just racketeers, the worst kind of capitalists.

5 posted on 07/29/2002 12:08:14 PM PDT by IronJack
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California politicians killing the goose that laid the golden egg. They're already driving businesses out like its going out of style.

I can't wait until the well dries up completely & the leaches our state tax dollars support have to get real jobs. The hard times that will surely follow'll be worth it.

6 posted on 07/29/2002 12:09:16 PM PDT by skeeter
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"No one should have to choose between caring for a child, or seriously ill family member, and a paycheck," Firestein says.

I can't believe people think they ought to be paid for taking care of their kids or family.

7 posted on 07/29/2002 12:13:35 PM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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California politicians killing the goose that laid the golden egg. They're already driving businesses out like its going out of style.

Blame the voters who put them in power.

8 posted on 07/29/2002 12:22:40 PM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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Interestingly enough, the larger trend in business is to pay for performance now.

Contractors get brought in to work sites, are paid only for the hours that they work, and are cut when they cease producing (in theory).

Artists and programmers are frequently contracted to create a product while they work their own hours at home, and they are paid only for their final product.

Laws such as this one in California will only serve to accelerate this trend.

Why take on the growing burden of a new "employee" when one can pay a fixed amount of money for a final end-product, after all?!

Thus, labor unions will see their membership numbers suffer as businesses find alternative ways (instead of using employees) to obtain their desired results.

Home-owners are already doing this. Who among us pays a plumber for the time that he spends caring for his family? No, we only pay him to fix our plumbing. We aren't going to pay for his time away from our home.

Likewise, businesses are going to find ways to not pay for the time that emplyees spend at home, even if that means no longer hiring employees but rather using contractors and other outsourcing methods.

9 posted on 07/29/2002 12:27:04 PM PDT by Southack
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This could be a boon to older workers who would now have value as reliable workers. Bet the birth rate increases in states that pass this legislation.

Yes, Rush said it first, but it was a no brainer for thinking individuals, don't you think?

10 posted on 07/29/2002 12:33:49 PM PDT by chit*chat
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Blame the voters who put them in power.

You must be referring to state employees & unions, "minority oppressed" and welfare queens which constitute the majority of the Democratic base here in CA.

Sure I blame them. Thats why it will be so sweet to watch them as their lifes blood - state tax receipts - are cut off.

11 posted on 07/29/2002 12:50:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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California, the land of the Free Lunch. Just pass a law, and like magic, you have abundant, clean, renewable energy. Just pass a law, and vehicles quit emitting any exhaust. Just pass a law, and your employer will pay you for months even when you don't show up for work.

There are no negative consequences to any of this, because the intentions of the lawmakers are good.

12 posted on 07/29/2002 12:58:36 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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Blame the voters who put them in power

The voters who put them in power are the same dipsticks who live on welfare, disability, social security, various government "subsidies", drug money and those illegal aliens who vote. The California DemonRAT Party, which currently holds a large majority in the legislature and the governor's office, is bound and determined to, once again, put the bankrupt philosophy of Karl Marx into practice on a grand scale. And the results, once again, will be a disaster. Its already happening: the rotten commie governor in the first two years of his "reign" turned a $10 billion surplus into a $30 billion deficit. Now, the bastards are arguing over how big the tax increase will be.

13 posted on 07/29/2002 1:03:56 PM PDT by 45Auto
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It seems like the liberal states - especially KommieFornia - are rapidly reaching the point where they have more tax consumers (moochers) than they have taxpayers (producers).

That is an unsustainable situation, and it won't be pretty when it crashes down on their heads.

14 posted on 07/29/2002 1:24:32 PM PDT by GaltMeister
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I can't believe people think they ought to be paid for taking care of their kids or family.

Why not?

If the leeches who are always among us can make it work, why not?

The ever present dark side of human nature: maximum benefit with minimum effort.

Used to be called saving for a rainy day.
Now it is institutionalized compassion, at everyone else's expense.
Catered to, nurtured and encouraged by all political parties.

15 posted on 07/29/2002 1:32:38 PM PDT by Publius6961
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Thanks for the heads up! };^D)
16 posted on 07/29/2002 7:09:29 PM PDT by RJayneJ
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17 posted on 07/29/2002 7:41:20 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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If the Legislature REALLY wanted to help families, they would cut taxes or provide an incentive so that moms (or dads) can stay home with their kids. The sad fact is that many moms work because they have to help pay the bills, not because they "want" to.
18 posted on 07/30/2002 12:19:53 AM PDT by Gophack
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California - - LOFL!!!
What a sewer.
19 posted on 07/30/2002 12:29:25 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I can't believe people think they ought to be paid for taking care of their kids or family.
Does the term Welfare ring a bell?
20 posted on 07/30/2002 1:20:12 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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