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To: goody2shooz
What you have to realize is the SIMON WASN'T A PARTY TO THE LAWSUIT!!!! It wasn't his deal. That's what REALLY gets me, is that the press keep talking about this, and Simon wasn't even named as a defendent!!!!!!
11 posted on 08/07/2002 6:38:40 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Gophack
All true (about Bill not being party to the litigation). But who out there really cares to make the distinction? All the public knows is that Bill Simon's family company has been found guilty of fraud.

The fact that we, here on FR, spend so much time disecting this litigation battle is an indication of how troubling this case is, and how much bad news it is to the hopes for unseating Davis. Just read the post again. It smacks of defensiveness. That's deadly in a campaign.

18 posted on 08/07/2002 10:01:35 AM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Gophack
What you have to realize is the SIMON WASN'T A PARTY TO THE LAWSUIT!!!!

What difference does it make? The Democrats have already won the Headline Wars on this one. Simon's only salvation is that no one is really paying attention right now.

20 posted on 08/07/2002 10:05:10 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Gophack
Simon has moved over into the dead meat column and this (very reasonable) defense is any help?

Sure, all you and the campaign says is true, but the public has found their 401k's bleeding and are looking for scalps. Simon makes a good scapegoat.

The better move would be an offense. Like find the people who can expose 'Gay' Davis and his drug running liberal buddies. Don't ya suppose Hindelang just might have some connections to Davis?

26 posted on 08/07/2002 11:06:11 AM PDT by flamefront
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To: Gophack
That's what REALLY gets me, is that the press keep talking about this, and Simon wasn't even named as a defendent!!!!!!

This is a run for GOVERNOR!!

He needs to counter the media with ADDS!! Yet, we see nothing. Certainly not on any State level to counter all this. He could BUY time if he needed to. In fact, he NEEDS to. Because without some kind of counter to all the things being put out there, he is a dead duck.

I'm sorry, but I didn't think anyone could LOSE to Gray Davis. Simon isn't running a very good campaign. Those are the facts.

I'm still hoping he has SOMETHING up his sleeve, that will show he is TRULY in this.

Sorry, but I'm just saying what I'm seeing (or NOT SEEING) and believe me, we'd LOVE to see Davis gone. He NEEDS to be gone!

This should have been the easiest race in California history considering Davis's record! Yet it is still a close race. That alone defies logic. It speaks to the lack of any real campaign by Simons. Either he is getting really crappy advice, or he just isn't up to the job. This should have been a cake walk.

Believe me,.. it saddens us to feel this way. But we have a choice, we can act like Ostriches, and plant our heads deeper in the sand, or we can start letting the Simon Campaign know we are extremely displeased with his campaign. IMHO, He needs NEW managers NOW!!

43 posted on 08/07/2002 4:15:12 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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