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It's a bit long but totally worth reading. This Kurzweil guy is really sharp.
1 posted on 08/08/2002 10:23:35 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: ElkGroveDan
Here's a snip I like..

One constant is the left’s eternal migration ever further left. Taxes are never quite high enough; government programs and regulations never quite ubiquitous enough, spending never quite lavish enough; guns, boy scouts, Christian symbols, and traditional morality never quite marginalized enough; and education and the law never quite politically correct enough.



GO SIMON

2 posted on 08/08/2002 10:29:44 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: ElkGroveDan
Thanks for the post - I appreciate learning via this kind of detail. Enough with the 'sound-bite' post and replys; the're so "did not. did too."

Anyone care to name the individuals who are
now making decisions for the Simon campaign.
I believe he is on the 2nd or 3rd team... just curious.
3 posted on 08/08/2002 10:45:27 AM PDT by seenenuf
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To: ElkGroveDan
An interesting scholarly article. I would like to hypothesize an alternate view and base it on a corralary to the following article concept.

California?s politics is fluid, not static.

The hypothetical argument is that "California's population is fluid." By that I mean that of all the states in the union, California Culture promotes transient citizenship. For someone to be a "native born" Californian is unusual. In other states near California, being "from California" is common and a social stigma.

People move to California, get jobs, pay taxes and then leave to go somewhere else. California is no longer a state retirees move to. My Grandfather sold his farm and left North Dakota to move to California so he wouldn't have to face the terribles winters of the Great Plains. I don't see many folks retiring to California that I know. The are going to other places, where the income taxes are much lower and property values are reasonable.

When I got my graduate degree in engineering, I accepted a job with a large engineering firm in San Francisco and moved there with my wife. The project I worked on mostly was one that was being designed for construction in Washington State, where I got my engineering degree. I got my professional training there and then came back. I still remember how high the combined income taxes and sales taxes were then. I remember how expensive home ownership was and I and my peers were making really good money. I also know that there is no way I would ever move their and put up with their taxes, property costs, or anti-gun regulations. When I retire, I might consider setting up a home in some other state to get warmer climate, but it will not be California.

My college-aged son has moved to California and is going to college there. He is hoping to get good contacts that will serve him well in business. He has talked about maybe getting his first professional job in California and then quickly leaving to come back to the real world. He sees the artifical nature of living in southern California. I was talking to another friend of my son's last night. He too is enrolled in college in southern California and home for the summer. He will be graduating next year and told me he wants to get into graduate school in some other state. He wants out.

I don't see lots of business moving to California. I would argue that a lot of business has been driven from California by the nature of the litigation in the state, by the extreme environmental regulations, by the high tax rates, by the extreme salaries they must pay so people can have homes and pay the high state taxes, by the failing schools and reduced trained labor pool, and by shortages of all kinds of things from electricity to water that cause interruptions in production.

California may have had a conservative core, but I feel that core is being driven away from the state. You can't vote for conservative California politicians, if you have left for Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, or Washington. That is the real question, when it comes to California demographic trends.

5 posted on 08/08/2002 10:55:12 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: ElkGroveDan
bump
6 posted on 08/08/2002 11:06:55 AM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: ElkGroveDan; Dark Wing
Too late. Events did that already.

"Several political professionals I have spoken with say Simon’s greatest vulnerability is that Davis will use his huge war chest for TV spots to fill-in the vague picture millions of voters still have of the Republican candidate in shades as dark as those applied to Matt Fong — unless Simon first fills in his own bright, clear picture.

8 posted on 08/08/2002 11:11:51 AM PDT by Thud
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I remember reading in the press back in late 1997-early 1998 that the Democrats were 'desperate' to draft Sen. Feinstin to run for governor. The press reported at the time that Democrats felt that, 1). Davis, Checchi and some lib Dem female House Rep. were weak candidates and 2) that an expensive primary would leave the winner too weak (except for Checchi) to win against the 'formidable' Dan Lungren.

The theme four years ago was that the Democratic party was in disarray. Then Davis wins, and all of a sudden the entire state is unwinnable for conservative GOPers. Only types like Campbell and Riordan even have the slightest chance of victory. Quite a turnaround. The press are morons.

11 posted on 08/08/2002 11:38:30 AM PDT by Gothmog
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To: ElkGroveDan
Another sharp Kurzweil.
15 posted on 08/08/2002 11:48:34 AM PDT by StriperSniper
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Consider the demographic shifts urged as reasons for Republicans to move left. The LA Times? March 2000 exit poll showed Latinos as the ethnic group most strongly supporting the Defense of Marriage Act, 65 percent ?yes? to 35 percent ?no.? Second? Blacks, the Times reported: 62 to 38 percent. Asians? Third, at 59 to 41 percent in favor. Fourth, and last, Whites, 58 to 42, which might explain Republican leaders? reluctance to champion the issue of family with Latinos ? Hispanics are too conservative for them!

This effectively refutes those in the GOP who advocate appealing to voters along ethnic lines, which is moving 'left' if anything is. To hell with sops to ethnic blocks such as printing campaign literature in foreign languages, etc. How about the GOP holding its ground on the moral issues and for a change show some b*lls? How about even going on the OFFENSIVE on these issues?

Seems to me to be a much better way to attract voters of ALL stripes and not nearly as divisive. Along with tax reform the GOP would be UNBEATABLE in ANY state in the union.

16 posted on 08/08/2002 11:51:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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Only a "shitty little state" like Cali could be home to cities like Berkely and Arcata, which are openly socialist jokes.

Cali sucks liberal wanker so much I left.

Only, like the idiot I'm apt to sometimes be, I moved to Washington.

24 posted on 08/08/2002 12:54:06 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: ElkGroveDan
Most liberal crap starts there...it's liberal.
36 posted on 08/08/2002 8:11:26 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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He is delusional. The Pubbies give no meaningful choice compared to the Dems. The Dems. are going to sweep in the next elections. The question then is where do all the working people go? Calif. will be the first example of total socialism in the US. Things will not be pretty here in a few years. As for Simon I will vote for him but where is his campaign? The guy is a zero. We have been had by the national party once again. Where is Jorge? After all this state will soon be just an extension of Mexico which he seems to care more about than the US.
37 posted on 08/08/2002 8:31:16 PM PDT by willyone
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This author is very longwinded. Ruthless editing would help this article immeasurably.
40 posted on 08/08/2002 8:41:33 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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The article never mentions illegal aliens and the impact they have on the elections. They are voting, in massive numbers.

That's all. That's it.

California is history; lost forever to barbarism. Simon is toast.

I anticipate a Demorat lock on the Legislature and Governorship for the rest of my lifetime--and possibly "forever".

CA is as leftist as Mass or NY or Vermont. Forget it, it's lost.

--Boris

43 posted on 08/08/2002 11:40:47 PM PDT by boris
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